Wednesday, June 15, 2022

"Calvinists are Stumped by Colossians 2:12"

In a follow up to my posting "A Debate On John 6" (See here), wherein Dr. Flowers had a Calvinist of the born again before faith view flustered in a video discussion, I want to refer to another case where Dr. Flowers did the same thing with another Calvinist in regard to the born again before faith error. The video is titled "Calvinists are Stumped by Colossians 2:12" (See here). Again, Dr. Flowers has the Calvinist brother agitated and confused. The brother could not explain how his view did not contradict the text which says people are "raised through faith in the powerful working of God." After this, Dr. Flowers shows a portion of a video where the Calvinist brother is talking to Dr. James White about the discussion, confessing to Dr. White his confusion and inability to answer the argument. Dr. Flowers (who has debated Dr. White many times on this issue) then plays Dr. White's answer to the Calvinist brother. Honestly, Dr. White never dealt with the passage, as Dr. Flowers points out. Listen to it yourself and see what you think. As of today there are almost 22,000 comments! To see my posting on this passage see "Quickened By Faith" (here).

Now, let me say in closing that I disagree with Dr. Flowers on several things, but on this issue I agree with him. I hate that he is so opposed to all aspects of Calvinist thought. Reading many of the comments he gets from folks who watch his attacks on Calvinism finds many saying the most awful things about Calvinists. That is very unbecoming. Some of the most holy and learned believers have come from the Calvinist tradition. 

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