The Old Baptist Test
Where The Old Baptist Faith Is Defended
Wednesday, September 23, 2026
Rebutting Hardshell Arguments (4)
Tuesday, September 22, 2026
Rebutting Hardshell Arguments (3)
That is probably the case with I John 5: 1 and I John 2: 29. Said Wallace further:
"Further, the present participle, especially in such formulaic expression Πᾶς ὁ + present participle and the like, routinely belong here." (Greek Grammar here)
Πᾶς ὁ + present participle is what we have in I John 5: 1 and Wallace says such expression "routinely belongs" to such a gnomic class of present tense.
"Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings." (Jer. 4: 4)
Commented Dr. Gill:
"Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart - Content not yourselves with, nor put your confidence in outward circumcision of the flesh, but be concerned for the circumcision of the heart; for removing from that whatever is disagreeable to the Lord, even all carnality, sensuality, hypocrisy, and superfluity of naughtiness, and for having that put there which is well pleasing in his sight; and which though it is the work of God, and he only can do it and has promised it, yet such an exhortation is made to bring men to a sense of their need of it, and of the importance of it, and to show how agreeable it is to the Lord, and so to stir them up to seek unto him for it." (Gill's Commentary)
Sunday, September 20, 2026
Rebutting Hardshell Arguments (2)
In this second post we will continue to critique an Internet treatise titled "Primitive Baptist Church: Bible Basic Doctrines" (See here) authored by Elders Johnson Vernon, Michael Ivy, and Don Watson, and found at the web page of Denton Primitive Baptist Church (www.dentonpbc.org).
The treatise spends a lot of time trying to prove that a sinner is born again or regenerated or quickened before he believes in Christ or the gospel and before he repents of his sin. This is not only a tenet of the Hardshell Hyper Calvinists but is also a view held to by others, such as the Reformed Baptists, or some Presbyterians such as the late Dr. R.C. Sproul. These folks want to try to get people to believe that this view is the view of Calvinists, which is not the case, for many Calvinists do not believe that sinners are born again before faith. John Calvin himself did not believe it, affirming rather that sinners were born again or regenerated by faith. The older Calvinists at the time of the Protestant Reformation generally agreed with Calvin.
The above text disproves the proposition that regeneration precedes faith. Believing in Christ the Light precedes becoming children of the Light. Children of the Light is the same as children of God. In First Thessalonians chapter five Paul says to the believers "you are all sons of the light and sons of the day." (vs. 5) We saw in the previous chapter of this critique how John 1: 12-13 taught the same truth, that people believe in Christ and receive him in order to be given the right to become begotten children of God. We are still looking at the section titled "Relationship Between Belief and New Birth" (pgs. 112-113).
Next, the authors of the treatise wrote:
"It would be just as foolish to go over to the shopping center, walk up to a brick wall and start saying "by grace are ye saved through faith" - and people would think I was a moron."
By motion and second, agreed that we adopt as the sense of this association the action of five of our churches as expressed in their letters, that we declare non-fellowship for the idea of a federal form of government, that the commission was given to the church and not to the apostles or ministry, that it is the duty of the ministry to admonish the alien sinner to repent and believe the gospel, and against affiliation in and with secret institutions."
Saturday, September 19, 2026
Rebutting Hardshell Arguments (1)
Friday, September 18, 2026
Sound Doctrine
Several New Testament texts speak of what is called "sound doctrine." (I Tim. 1:10; II Tim. 4:3; Titus 1:9; 2:1) By "sound" (Grk. hygiainō) means healthy or what is good and profitable for you, therapeutic. The same Greek word is translated as "whole" in contrast to "sick." (Luke 5: 31; 7:10) In III John 3: 1 it is actually translated as "be in health." Paul speaks of sound doctrine in these words:
"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome (Grk. hygiainō) words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness." (I Tim. 6: 3 kjv)
He also spoke of Bible teachers teaching or delivering "sound words" (II Tim. 1: 13), warning that "the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine" (II Tim. 4: 3). Sound doctrine is wholesome, beneficial, good for your spiritual and mental health. It will also improve your overall health, your mental, spiritual, and bodily well being. Wrote Solomon:
"My son, give attention to my words; Incline your ear to my sayings. Do not let them depart from your eyes; Keep them in the midst of your heart; For they are life to those who find them, And health to all their flesh. Keep your heart with all diligence, For out of it spring the issues of life." (Prov. 4: 20-23 nkjv)
"A merry heart does good, like medicine, But a broken spirit dries the bones." (Prov. 17: 22 nkjv)
"The light of the eyes rejoices the heart, And a good report makes the bones healthy." (Prov. 15: 30 nkjv)
The Gospel is good news and so is good for the mind, and the mind affects the body.
"A sound heart is life to the body, But envy is rottenness to the bones." (Prov. 14: 30 nkjv)
"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones." (Prov. 3: 5-8 kjv)
Solomon gave good fatherly advice about the benefits of good doctrine and the knowledge of truth when he wrote:
"Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know understanding. For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law." (Prov. 4: 1-2 kjv)
Again, that is true in regard to all the sciences, but especially in the knowledge of God, of his character, works, and ways. Good doctrine is good in itself, good for you, good because it is profitable. In the New Testament there are several Greek words that are translated by the singular English word "good." At times the word may mean what is worthy, as in "good" seed. Sometimes it may mean what is profitable. At times it may mean what is essentially or morally good. "Good doctrine" would include good theology, good instruction, good because it is true and right. Our Father in Heaven has given us good doctrine. Wrote Moses of the doctrine of the LORD:
"Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass." (Deut. 32: 1-2 kjv)
The doctrine of the scriptures is as beneficial and right as rain. So the apostle Paul wrote:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..." (II Tim. 3: 16 kjv)
In the Bible we have only "words of faith and of good doctrine" (I Tim. 4: 6). A Bible believer is one who is "holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught," and is "sound in the faith," and is thereby "able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict themselves," and if necessary to "rebuke sharply" those who oppose the faithful word of God. (Titus 1: 9, 13 nkjv) A Bible believer should be rooted in the faith, one who "gives attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine." (I Tim. 4: 13 kjv) They should all "labor in the word and doctrine," especially teachers of the word (I Tim. 5: 17 kjv).
Christians need to be on alert about false doctrine, especially when it comes to the fundamental tenets of the Bible. They need to be "rooted and grounded" in love, and in Christ, which cannot be done apart from being rooted and grounded in what he taught, in the knowledge of the truth. (Eph. 3: 17-19) If a person's life is not founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ, he is destined for destruction. Said Jesus:
“Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.” (Matt. 7: 24-27 nkjv)
Importance of Sound Doctrine
"But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." (Rom. 6: 17-18 kjv)
"Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son." (II John 1: 9 kjv)
These texts tell us that doctrine is so important that it is connected with salvation. That is not to say that a person must be right in properly interpreting every text of holy scripture, but it does tell us that one must be correct in the fundamental teachings of the Bible concerning the nature and works of God, the way of salvation through Christ or the message of the Gospel, and of the person of Christ, etc., and not over tertiary issues.
The apostles constantly warned believers about this matter. The apostle Paul firmly gave this solemn warning to them:
"That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive." (Eph. 4: 14 kjv)
Such professing Christians show how unstable they are and may reveal that they have never truly known the way of truth and were never begotten by it. Peter wrote about these hypocritical believers in this language:
"For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire." (II Peter 2: 20-22 nkjv)
Obviously these professing believers were not true disciples, but were people who had a head knowledge of Christ and the doctrine of the faith but who did not hold on to it. By this head knowledge and through having made a profession of Christ they had for a time "escaped the pollutions of the world" through the "knowledge" of the doctrine. They received temporary benefits from abiding by the morals of the Christian faith, but no lasting benefits. The teachings of Christ were not made the foundation of the lives of these shallow ground hearers. We must remember these words of Jesus about what he taught:
"Jesus answered them and said, “My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority." (John 7: 16-17 nkjv)
Doing God's will cannot be divorced from knowing the doctrine of Christ which is the doctrine of God. A saved person knows the doctrine. If he does not, he is not saved.
Christians must be on guard against false teachers and their false doctrines. So exhorted the apostle who had so much to do with codifying Christian doctrine (Paul):
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." (Rom. 16: 17 kjv)
Christians must not be reluctant to learn doctrine nor to make sure that what they believe is correct, for if they do not, they may be found doing what the apostle Paul warned about, i.e. "that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed" (I Tim. 6: 1 kjv). Rather, Christians should rather strive to "adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things" (Titus 2: 10 kjv)
Bad Doctrine
Obviously sound doctrine is very important. That is true in all the sciences, but especially in theology. It is repugnant that some Christians talk badly of doctrine, saying it prevents unity and causes division and does not promote love. However, this idea is foreign to what the scriptures say about doctrine and its importance. Truth will always divide. Said Jesus:
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ " (Matt. 10: 34-36 nkjv)
Of course, false doctrine is harmful, but good doctrine is highly beneficial. False doctrine is also called "damnable heresies" (II Peter 2:1) because they are condemned by the scriptures and because they confirm people in their condemned state and bring upon them greater condemnation.
Paul spoke of "science falsely so called" (I Tim. 6: 20 kjv). Knowledge that is not correct does no one any good. It is called "falsehood" in the Bible. People do themselves no good when they give heed to untruths and to falsehood, whey the "take refuge in their lies" and "hide themselves under falsehood." (Isa. 28: 15) They have "trusted in falsehood" (Jer. 13: 25). This is true whether it be errors in psychology, philosophy, medicine, etc., but especially in what they know about God. Paul warned of these false doctrines when he warned:
"Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth." (I Tim. 4: 1-3 nkjv)
It is interesting that when the truth is spoken of in scripture that it is called the "doctrine" (singular) and not "doctrines" (plural), as we see in the above text where Paul speaks of "doctrines of demons." We should not think merely of demonic doctrines in theology alone, but should recognize that doctrines of demons are also to be found in philosophy and its branches, such as in modern psychology (which justifies homosexuality for instance), in ethics, in political science, etc. In the above text Paul gave some examples where demonic doctrines may be found, such as in beliefs about marriage and the family, about diets, religious or otherwise, involving all kinds of "lies" and "deceptions" in a given society.
The Lord Jesus warned about several specific false doctrines. He warned his disciples to "beware of the leaven or doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees." (Matt. 16: 12 kjv) The specific "leaven" that Christ has in mind is "hypocrisy" (Luke 12: 1) but would include legalism, the idea that a person's works determine whether he is saved or lost. The Sadducees erred in denying the existence of angels, the resurrection of the dead, and in accepting only the Torah and not the prophets, and that salvation came by keeping the law. (Acts 23: 8)
In Revelation chapters two and three the ascended Lord Jesus dictated and sent letters to seven churches in Asian Minor. In them he warned about the danger of false doctrines.
"But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate." (Rev. 2: 14, 15 kjv)
"But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden." (Rev. 2: 24 kjv)
It is not necessary for me to elaborate on what are the doctrines of Balaam and of the Nicolaitans. The reader can research that for himself or herself.
Brethren, make every effort to be certain that your beliefs are right.
Wednesday, September 16, 2026
Brethren, Keep These Words In Mind
This text has been on my mind lately as it has in the past. It is comforting to me to know that the eyes of the Lord are watching over me, as a watchman or guardian, and that his ears are open to my prayers, even though he does not grant many of my prayer requests. The words of the Apostle Peter are well worth our time spent musing upon them. Recall that the Apostle Paul wrote:
"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." (Phil. 4: 8 kjv)
Our subject text is worth thinking deeply upon. If you are a believer and one that seeks to do good as God defines it, rejoice, but if you are one who is an unbeliever and a doer of evil, beware of the face of the Lord.
In the above text God is said to have eyes, ears, and a face. Does that mean that he has a physical body? No. Jesus says "God is Spirit" (John 4: 24), and should not be translated as "God is a Spirit." (kjv) The absence of the definite article "the" does not always imply the indefinite "a." Translating it as "God is a spirit" is grammatically misleading because it makes God sound like just one member of a general category of spirit beings. We have other "God is" statements in the Bible that are also anarthrous nouns, such as "God is love" (I John 4:8) and "God is light" (I John 1:5).
When God is said to have eyes, ears, hands, feet, or a face, mouth, etc., theologians call these anthropomorphisms, and the ascribing of emotions to God as anthropopathisms. What these are intended to teach us is that God hears, sees, speaks, moves about (though he has no physical body), and can appear in a physical form when he chooses, as he appeared in a burning bush, and as he appeared in a human body in the old testament and when he appeared in human flesh in the person of Christ.
The eye(s) of the Lord denote his omniscience. The arm of the Lord denotes the execution of his divine power. So, when the text says that the "eyes of the Lord are over the righteous" it simply means that he sees and watches over the righteous. God is seen as a "watchman" in Psalm 121 where he is said not to sleep as do human watchers. Said the Psalmist David:
"Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep (or guard) the city, the watchman waketh but in vain." (Psa. 127: 1 kjv)
God employs watchers, both angels and men, to watch over his people, but over them he is the chief watcher and if they fail, he does not. LORD God also said to his ancient people: "I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye." (Psa. 32: 8 kjv) God has what is called "the all-seeing eye." He sees and knows all. Nothing escapes his notice. So Solomon said: "The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good." (Prov. 15: 3 kjv) Though Peter focuses especially upon God's watching over the righteous, for their good and protection, yet he sees all that every man does. So wrote the Psalmist: "The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men." (Psa. 11: 4 kjv)
By God's "eyelids" of course we are not to understand that he literally has them, but his "eyelids" are said to try men, because, when physical beings closely scrutinize or inspect a thing, they customarily drop their eyelids and half close their eyes. They also sometimes stoop down towards a thing to get a closer look, as the angels are said to do as regards the gospel and things pertaining to redemption, being things "the angels desire to look into." (I Peter 1:12) On the words "look into" Ellicott says the following in his commentary:
"The word which has here shrunk into our word “to look into,” means really, to bend aside to see. In its literal sense it occurs in John 20:5; John 20:11, and in Luke 24:12, of people standing at the side of the cave so as not to get in their own light, and stooping sideways to peer in."
So God closely examines each man. But, he especially looks upon the righteous, those who by faith have the righteousness of Christ imputed to them. He does not watch over them looking to find fault, but he looks upon them because he delights in them. The Psalmist David said "But I am poor and needy; Yet the Lord thinks upon me. You are my help and my deliverer; Do not delay, O my God." (Psa. 40: 17 nkjv) What a blessed and wonderful thought to know that God thinks upon us because it pleases him to do so!
It is also very comforting to know that the Lord's ears are open to hear the prayers of the righteous. It is implied that the Lord's ears are not open to hear the prayers of the unrighteous. It is important for all to keep in mind that righteous living produces greater odds for being granted prayer requests. So James said: "The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective." (James 5: 16 niv) By "righteous person" we are to understand a righteous living person. Unrighteous living, even for the child of God, will hinder his prayer effectiveness. So the Apostle Peter said:
"Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered." (I Peter 3: 7 nkjv)
Every Christian has had times when it seemed that God was not listening to his prayers. Jeremiah, the weeping prophet, exclaimed - "Even when I cry and shout, He shuts out my prayer." (Lam. 3: 8 nkjv) Still, the Lord Jesus taught his disciples to persevere in prayer, and never give up. He taught this by this story:
"1 Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart, 2 saying: “There was in a certain city a judge who did not fear God nor regard man. 3 Now there was a widow in that city; and she came to him, saying, ‘Get justice for me from my adversary.’ 4 And he would not for a while; but afterward he said within himself, ‘Though I do not fear God nor regard man, 5 yet because this widow troubles me I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.’ ” 6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. 7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily." (Luke 18: 1-8 nkjv)
It is necessary for Christians to keep in mind that they have need of patience and perseverance in their prayer lives. They need to remember that his ears are open to their prayers and that there is never an inopportune time for them to approach the Lord. Moses reminded the ancient covenant people of God:
“For what great nation is there that has God so near to it, as the LORD our God is to us, for whatever reason we may call upon Him?" (Deut. 4: 7 nkjv)
Peter says that the "face" of the Lord is "against" them who do evil. Of course, the "face" of the Lord is "for" his people, for those who do good, who do the things he has commanded them. It seems as if Peter should have mentioned this positive aspect of the "face" of the Lord since he has just mentioned how the eyes and ears of the Lord are positive things for the righteous. The face or countenance of the Lord may frown upon a person or may smile upon him or her. Children know they have done bad when they get a frowning face from their parents and know they have done well when they get a smile of approval from them. This is described in the well known priestly benediction from Numbers chapter six which says:
"The Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace." (vs. 24-26 nkjv)
Brethren, I hope you get as much good from meditating upon I Peter 3: 12 as I have.
Tuesday, September 15, 2026
Answering a Hardshell Polemic (4)
"But the fearful, and unbelieving...
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death."
(Rev. 21: 8 kjv)
In this fourth post of this series I will continue to examine an Internet article titled "Why Primitive Baptists are not Calvinists" by Elder Gary Harvey (read here). Elder Harvey wrote further:
"Calvinism (and Arminianism) errantly places faith before regeneration, or at the very best simultaneous with regeneration. They make faith a requirement for eternal salvation. But the scriptures are abundantly clear that regeneration comes before faith in the life of every single child of God."
I have many citations from "Primitive Baptists" who say that faith is given "in" regeneration. Recently I examined a writing (here) by Elder Joshua Winslett who cited Elder Bernard Gowens (both present day Hardshell ministers) who said:
“This verse describes the initial gift of faith in regeneration. When the Lord Jesus Christ speaks the life-giving voice to one who is dead in trespasses and sins (Joh 5:25), He creates faith in the soul by the sheer power of His command, so that the sinner irresistibly responds to His effectual call. The sinner is “made willing in the day of [God’s] power” (Ps 110:3). Like Lazarus, he responds to the Divine imperative involuntarily – below the level of consciousness. The power that raise Jesus from the dead is the very same power that creates faith in the soul (Eph 1:19).” (You can see where Gowens said this in this Internet article here)
If faith is given in regeneration, then no one is regenerated who does not have faith. Further, not all Calvinists put faith before regeneration. Perhaps the majority of them today do not, though John Calvin and the older Calvinists did, and as I do. In this blog (here) I have all my articles on proving that faith precedes salvation, including regeneration or rebirth.
How anyone can deny that faith is a requirement for salvation, in all its phases, is bewildering. Does Harvey believe sinners go to heaven as unbelievers? Does Harvey not know that the first "Primitive Baptists" founders of his sect did not deny that faith was necessary to be eternally saved? In my series titled "What The First Hardshells Believed" (See this post here that gives links to most of the articles in that series), for instance, in the tenth article in the series I wrote:
In II Thessalonians 2: 13-14 we are told that God has chosen some to salvation and that this salvation is "through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth." I wrote about how this text completely refutes the Hardshell belief that belief in the truth is not a requirement for salvation. (See here and here)
Fate of Unbelievers
The text at the head of this post says that all "unbelievers" shall go to the lake of fire and suffer the second death. The Greek word for the adjective "unbelieving" is apistos and means "without faith." It is also translated in the KJV as "faithless" or "unbelievers." In the many texts that speak of these unbelievers, we see that they are styled a "perverse generation," or "infidels" (II Cor. 6: 15; I Tim. 5: 8), and are they "whom the god of this age has blinded their minds" and have not had the "light" of Christ to shine in their hearts (II Cor. 4: 4), and have a "defiled mind and conscience." (Titus 1: 15) When Jesus spoke of a person having his "portion with the unbelievers" (Luke 12: 46) he was describing the second death in the lake of fire. Jesus also said:
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3: 18 nkjv)
He also repeated this in giving the great commission, saying "he who believes not shall be condemned" (Mark 16: 16). He also said to the unbelieving Jews: "Except you believe that I Am, you will die in your sins" (John 8: 24).
Further, the scriptures are rather clear in saying that it is by faith that sinners are quickened from spiritual death, reborn or regenerated, or made children of God. Notice these substantiating texts:
"buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead." (Col. 2: 12 nkjv)
"But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (John 1: 12-13 nkjv)
"For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus." (Gal. 3: 26 nkjv)
Further, the authors of the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith was a confession endorsed by the leaders of the "Primitive Baptist Church" in the year 1900 when assembled in Fulton, Kentucky. What did the signatories of the 1689 confession believe on this matter? Did they not affirm that faith in Christ was essential for salvation? In the Catechism attached to the confession we have these words:
A. The Spirit applies to us the redemption purchased by Christ, by working faith in us, and thereby uniting us to Christ in our effectual calling.
(Eph. 2:8; 3:17)
Q. 35. What is effectual calling?
A. Effectual calling is the work of God's Spirit, whereby, convincing us of our sin and misery, enlightening our minds in the knowledge of Christ, and renewing our wills, He does persuade and enable us to embrace Jesus Christ, freely offered to us in the Gospel.
(2 Tim. 1:9; John 16:8-11; Acts 2:37; 26:18; Ezekiel 36:26; John 6:44,45; 1 Cor. 12:3)
Q. 92. What does God require of us, that we may escape His wrath and curse, due to us for sin?
A. To escape the wrath and curse of God due to us for sin, God requires of us faith in Jesus Christ, repentance unto life, with the diligent use of all the outward and ordinary means whereby Christ communicates to us the benefits of redemption.
Q. 93. What is faith in Jesus Christ?
A. Faith in Jesus Christ is a saving grace, whereby we receive and rest upon Him alone for salvation, as He is offered to us in the Gospel."
John Spilsbury, signatory to the 1644 London Baptist Confession agreed, writing as this in his "Personal Confession of Faith" (you can read here; emphasis mine):
Harvey wrote further:
"God knows that a person dead in sins cannot do anything acceptable in His sight, whether man knows that or not. God knows better than to require spiritual action from the dead person prior to regeneration."
If "dead in sin" people cannot do anything acceptable in God's eyes, then why is it not also true that people who are "dead to sin" cannot do anything unacceptable to God? If the dead cannot do anything to be saved, then why did Jesus say that the dead must "hear the voice of the Son of God" in order to be brought to life? (John 5: 25) Why did Jesus say to dead sinners "you will not come to me that you might have life"? (John 5: 40) Further, Jesus says to the dead: "Therefore He says: “Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light.” (Eph. 5: 14 nkjv)
Why tell the dead to rise from the dead if they can't do anything? Through the prophet Isaiah God said: "Incline your ear, and come to Me. Hear, and your soul shall live; And I will make an everlasting covenant with you— The sure mercies of David." (Isa. 55: 3 nkjv) If God can say “Hear, you deaf; And look, you blind, that you may see" (Isa. 42: 18 nkjv), then he can also say "arise you who are dead." Jesus, the apostles, and all new testament preachers addressed dead sinners in their preaching and were always telling them what they must do to be saved.
Harvey wrote further:
"I heard Elder Charles Sandage say forty years ago, "To incorporate the gospel in the eternal salvation of sinners in any way is to completely destroy grace." I say Amen to that. To do so actually decreases the number of people that we can logically assume will be saved."
What Sandage condemns is what the scriptures teach and show, for they clearly show that the gospel is a means in saving sinners from sin and eternal death, and such a view does not "destroy grace." Notice these scriptures:
"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek." (Rom. 1: 16 nkjv)
"In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise." (Eph. 1: 13 nkjv)
"Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain." (I Cor. 15: 1-2 nkjv)
"For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel." (I Cor. 4: 15 nkjv)
"that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel." (Eph. 3: 6 nkjv)
"in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ." (II Thess. 1: 8 nkjv)
"But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." (II Thess. 2: 13-14 nkjv)
Typically the Hardshells will argue that any text that connects salvation through hearing and believing the gospel is a "time salvation" or an evangelical "conversion," one not necessary for eternal salvation, and yet in doing this they must totally ignore the fact that the contexts of these texts deal with eternal salvation. Such a position also forces them to say that 1) conversion is not necessary for eternal salvation, and 2) that being converted is not by grace. As we saw, Sandage and Harvey say that if salvation is effected by the gospel, then it is not by grace. Ergo, conversion is not by God nor by his grace.
Next, he says that the gospel cannot be a means in eternal salvation because it "decreases the number of people that we can logically assume will be saved."
But, how is that so if what Harvey's leading spokesmen have said in the past, men such as Elder C.H. Cayce and Elder Sylvester Hassell? Notice what Cayce and Hassell said:
"Q. Have Baptists always denied the use of means in regeneration?
A. In careless expressions some Baptists have advanced this error, but the same men, when taking into consideration the entire teaching of the Scriptures on this point, have, in their more exact expressions, repudiated it." (see here)
In the same question and answer writing, however, Hassell says:
"Jesus is the Great Preacher, and, by His omnipresent Spirit, He preaches His gospel savingly to His people (Isa. 61:1-3,10,11; Luke 4:16-30; Heb. 2:11,12; Psalm 110:3)."
"By the same Spirit by which His body was quickened He went and preached unto the spirits in prison. This shows very clearly that there is a work upon spirit which is performed by the direct work of the Spirit. “And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.” - (Ephesians 2:17-18). There is a preaching, or a work, which Jesus does by His Spirit, or by the Holy Spirit. This work is what is also called regeneration. Through the work of Jesus, His offering, both Jews and Gentiles have access to the Father by one Spirit in the work of regeneration. The Holy Spirit makes the application of the blood of Christ in the work of regeneration."
So, if Christ personally preaches the gospel to all the elect, then how is the number of the saved decreased by the gospel being a means? Further, cannot the Lord send an angel to preach the gospel to anyone? Paul speaks of this in Galatians 1: 8. Also, in Revelation 14: 7 we read:
"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." (Rev. 14: 7)
The reasoning of Harvey and the Hardshells that says - "whatever soteriological view saves the most people is the right one" I addressed in the previous chapter. Why then is Harvey not a Universalist?
Harvey wrote further:
"I remind you of the many, many times that God has threatened to destroy His own people down through history. And how He has destroyed them, over and over and over. He has killed them in some pretty spectacular ways too, hasn't He? The Flood comes to mind. Sodom and Gomorrah too."
Here again we see how close to Universalism are the Hardshells, as if we have not seen enough already. Where is the scripture that says God's people were destroyed in the flood or the hell fire that rained down upon Sodom and her sister cities? Harvey makes such claims and yet gives absolutely no proof from scripture to support them. The Bible rather says that God brought the flood in upon the "world of the ungodly." (II Peter 2: 5) In Genesis chapter six we see that the whole race of men are described as filled with great wickedness, that "every imagination of their hearts were only evil continually." Of these wicked men God says he repented that he had ever created them. How could that be said of any of the Lord's people? It was said of Judas however. (Matt. 26: 24) It was only Noah who the Lord judged to be perfect and righteous and he alone found grace in the eyes of the Lord. (verses 5-9)
The only righteous person in Sodom was Lot. So the Bible says:
"turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority." (II Peter 2: 6-10 nkjv)
This text tells us that it was Lot alone who was righteous in Sodom and Gomorrah. The others, the ones condemned to destruction, are described as being unrighteous, ungodly, characters of filthy conduct and lawless deeds, and who walked according to the flesh. Paul says that saved people "walk not according to the flesh" but "according to the Spirit" (Rom. 8: 4) Those who walk after the flesh are not saved people. Only a Hardshell or Universalist would claim otherwise.
In Genesis chapter eighteen Abraham asks the LORD if he will destroy the righteous with the wicked in destroying Sodom and her sister cities. He ends up saying that he would not destroy the cities if he found ten righteous souls in it. So, the idea that many righteous people were destroyed in that judgment is absurd.
Harvey wrote further:
"In Matthew 11:23, Christ indirectly proved that there were children of God that died in Sodom. He says that if the people of Sodom had seen the mighty works performed in Capernaum, they would have repented, and the city remained."
Because Christ said the Sodomites would have repented had they seen the miracles proves that the "people of Sodom" were children of God? Are you kidding me? Wrote Jude the Lord's brother:
"as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (Jude 1: 7)
Jude says the sinful inhabitants of Sodom are "suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"! These are God's people? The LORD God says through Ezekiel:
"Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit." (Eze. 16: 49-50 nkjv)
Wrote the Apostle Paul:
"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal. 5: 19-21 nkjv)
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." (I Cor. 6: 9-10 nkv)
These verses describe the people of Sodom and Gommorah and they are not children of God.
Harvey wrote further:
"I remind you also of Korab and all those that appertained unto him, as we read in Numbers 16. The earth opened up and swallowed them. Uzzah, who in ignorance touched the Ark to steady it, was smitten and died (II Samuel 6:1-9). Aaron's sons, Nadab and Abihu changed the recipe for the incense and offered this "strange fire" before the Lord in Leviticus 10. And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord (verse 2). These two men were priests of the Lord too. Yet each of these, if they were God's elect, was eternally preserved from the sad effects of their sin."
Why is Harvey and other Hardshell Baptists so prone to make every wicked apostate in the Bible a child of God? Having been a Hardshell Baptist, and the son of a leading Hardshell Baptist minister, I can make a good guess. It is because of their invention of the "time salvation" ideology. Elder Afton Richards told us what it basically is in the following quotation. I wrote about this (here), citing from Elder David Montgomery:
"Elder Afton Richards wrote a pamphlet in 1956 entitled, "Why I Am A Primitive Baptist". On page 21, he gives a definition of time salvation. Elder Richards says, "Primitive Baptists read the Scriptures with the desire of getting the harmony taught therein, and they enjoy much comfort that others do not get. When salvation refers to what God does for man without action on his part, and by the meritorious work of Christ, they know and realize that it refers to salvation in its highest order; preparing one to live with God in glory after death. When salvation is mentioned in connection with the acts of men; or man is to perform some action to bring about a better situation for himself, they know it is to be to the child of God (one freed from the guilt of sin), and refers to a timely deliverance, or something that is for man's benefit while he lives here in the world.""
Why was this formula created? Answer: it was formed because the "Primitive Baptists" at the end of the 19th century had come to believe that the word of God was not a means in the eternal salvation of sinners and that faith was no condition, nor anything that a sinner does. Having formulated that proposition, how were they going to deal with the numerous Bible passages that disprove this formula? Answer: they would assert that those passages deal with a "time salvation," one that is not necessary for eternal salvation. This of course led them out of necessity to also believe in a "time damnation" or "time destruction" or "time perishing."
So, when the Hardshells read such texts as Mark 16: 16 that say whoever believes and is baptized will be "saved" and whoever does not believe will be "damned" (kjv) they not only have to say that the salvation is temporal but also that the damnation is temporal.
If Hardshells like Harvey can make children of God out of those who were destroyed in the flood or in Sodom and Gomorrah, it is no wonder that they would do so with the other evil characters mentioned by Harvey, such as Korah, Cain, Balaam, Nadab and Abihu, etc. However, let us again return to the Book of Jude and see how this inspired writer describes them.
"But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah...These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever...These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage...These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. " (Jude 1: 10-13; 16; 19 nkjv)
Who are the persons designated by the pronouns in these words (which I have put in red)? It is the very people who Harvey is intent to make into children of God. They are described as being natural brute beasts, hardly a description of saved people! They are said to be "sensual," which is from the same Greek word translated as "natural" in I Cor. 2:14, which all Hardshells interpret to mean an unregenerated person. They are also declared to "have not the Spirit" and "twice dead." Harvey says Jude is describing children of God! "Be astonished, Oh ye heavens!"
Is Harvey saying that Nadab and Abihu are children of God because they were priests? So, there were no unsaved wicked priests in Israel?
Hophni and Phinehas were wicked sons of the high priest Eli who abused their power in the tabernacle at Shiloh. They stole the best parts of the meat offerings meant for God, threatened worshipers with force, and sexually abused the women serving at the entrance of the tent of meeting. God ultimately judged them for their severe sin. Both Ezekiel and Malachi delivered God's indictment against the wicked priests.
This will finish my review of Elder Harvey's reasoning for not being a Calvinist. I am glad he is not because he is an embarrassment to that system of theology which has produced many of the ablest theologians in the history of Christianity. In fact, Hardshells of today are more Arminian than Calvinists. Even in the mid nineteenth century the more orthodox among the "Primitive Baptists" accused their brethren, who were beginning to deny that faith and the gospel were means in the eternal salvation of sinners, of being Arminians. In the mid 19th century men like Elder John M. Watson and Elder John Clark, two great leaders in the newly formed "Primitive" or "Old School" sect, even though they were accused of being "Arminian" for contending for the truth that God uses his word in saving sinners, responded by saying that it was their Brethren who denied means who were the real Arminians. Wrote Clark (See my previous post giving these citations here):
"The theory that we must preach to men according to the power they possess to obey is sublimated Arminianism, and yet; the advocates of it are very fraid of being called Arminians. Christians know, however, by the word of his grace, and by the revelation of that word in their hearts, when it comes in power and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance, that Christ’s word is true which says, “Without me you can do nothing.” The Spirit takes the word of Christ and shows it to his people, and thus it is verified in the experience.
To preach to men upon the ground that they have power to do what is commanded, or to refuse to preach to them because they have not the power, shows that the confidence is in the flesh and not in God; that they depend upon the will of the flesh and not upon the power God, and that is the very essence, double refined, of Arminianism.
The minister of Christ does not preach to any class of men upon the consideration of their ability or inability. He has the sentence of death in himself, and therefore cannot trust in himself; and he has no confidence in the flesh of any other, but his confidence, his faith and hope, is in God, from whence alone are his expectations."
("What To Preach and How To Preach" Written by John Clark in Zion's Advocate--August 1875)
What think ye?
"Consider what I say, and may the Lord give you understanding in all things." (II Tim. 2: 7 nkjv)
