Friday, January 27, 2023

Beliefs about the Afterlife (v)




Some affirm that believers who died before Christ's death and resurrection went to one of two divisions of Sheol (or Hades), one where the righteous were gathered together and one where the unrighteous were assembled. Many hold to this view and is the one I favor. However, I cannot be too dogmatic on this, for Abraham's bosom may indeed be "Paradise" or "the third heaven." The story of Lazarus and Dives, however, does seem to point to the view I favor. 

So, if we ask - "did old testament believers go to heaven when they died?" - some would answer yes, and others, like I, would not, but would rather say that they went to "Abraham's bosom," to a place of rest and freedom from want and care, to a heavenly place, to a place that is Eden or Paradise like, and yet was not Paradise proper or the third heaven. There are of course problems with this view, but I see problems with all the views. No one view on it satisfies all questions or solves all problems.

For instance, it seems that Enoch and Elijah went to heaven in both body and spirit and they lived long before Christ died. This would prove, it seems, that people who went to Abraham's Bosom in the Old Testament times went to Heaven. But in reply one could reasonably argue that they could have been exceptions to the rule. 

Further, I don't recall where any text says specifically that they went to the third heaven. Of Enoch, Moses, the author/editor of Genesis, simply said that "God took him" (Gen. 5: 24). It is assumed that he took him to heaven, but not positively stated. Also the writer of Hebrews says "Enoch was translated that he should not see death" (11: 5) and consequentially "was not found" any longer on earth in body among men. (An original "missing persons" case) Since he did not die, we can assume that he is not in Sheol, or Hades, not in the place of the spirits of the dead. 

The text in 2 Kings 2:11 seems clear however. It says: “And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.” The Hebrew term for “heaven,” however, merely conveys the notion of ascending in the direction of heaven, or to "the heavens," of going “skyward,” upward, or heavenward. Elijah was known for “vanishing” for periods of time (1 Kings 17:2-6; 18:10) and for being transported suddenly and supernaturally by the Holy Spirit to other geographic locations (1 Kings 18:11-12). The Holy Spirit also whisked away Ezekiel (Ezek. 3:12-14) and Philip from the wilderness (Acts 8:39-40). Further, as already shown, Paul calls Paradise "the third heaven." There is mention of "the heaven of heavens." (Deut. 10: 14)

Elijah is unique for us in this investigation of theories of the afterlife, especially considering that Elijah appeared on the mount of transfiguration with Christ and Moses. That story is in Matthew 17, Luke 9, and Mark 9. There is no reason to doubt that on that occasion Elijah was in his body. Why would he not be if he ascended into heaven in his body and has never died? So, how does that fit with the statement of Christ "no one has ascended to heaven but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man who is in heaven"? (John 3 - which we have already spoken about) 

Did Elijah not go to heaven and come back in this instance on the mount? As suggested, Christ probably spoke those words before the transfiguration. If he stated it afterward, then we will have to alter our understanding of what "no man has ascended into heaven" means. Further, Moses appears with Christ. He did die and even had the Lord himself bury him in a secret place. (Deut. 34: 5-7) Further, the Lord had to fight with the Devil, via Michael the archangel, over this very thing. (Jude 1: 9) Also, it is said that Elijah went "up" into Heaven, not "down" into Hell. In the bible, when people died, were they said to go up or down, or both? Was such directional language different in the OT than in the NT? Generally people who die are described as going down in death, down to Sheol or Hades, and going up to heaven. 

The presence of both Elijah and Moses on the mount of transfiguration, before the death of Christ and his descent into Hades, proves that there is an afterlife and tells us something about it for the people of God. If Moses was in Abraham's bosom, on the good side of the Gulf of Hades, this did not keep him from appearing on earth in a visible ghostly form. Was this an exception? Or was it commonplace for the righteous dead to move from Abraham's bosom in Hades to the earth?

In an upcoming chapter we will look at the question of whether Christ descended into Hell (Sheol or Hades) in any sense, discussing where his soul and spirit were in the three days wherein his body lay dead in the tomb. In discussing that question we will also discuss the question of whether Christ escorted those in Abraham's Bosom (on the good side of Hades gulf) into Paradise or Third Heaven, what Paul called "leading captivity captive" (Eph. 4: 8-9). We will also look at what Christ was doing in spirit during those three days when his body lay dead in the grave. Did Christ in soul or spirit go to Hades? Or to Paradise? Or, to both?

Since the death and resurrection of Christ those who die "in the Lord" go to Heaven, to Paradise, in soul or spirit, to the very place where Christ is, and not to Hades (although it may be said that the body, in going to the grave, goes to Hades). This view then sees the story of the rich man and Lazarus as describing the realm of the dead for those who died before Christ's death and resurrection, where none went to the third heaven or to paradise. In the opposite view, "Abraham's bosom" becomes a part of Heaven rather than a part of Hades (realm of the dead), and depicts how it has always been when people die. 

I do not believe that there were any legal obstacles preventing the righteous dead from entering into Heaven (third heaven or paradise) in old testament times. Even though Christ had not yet died for believers, yet they could still be credited with the good that would come from it. People were saved in the old testament though it was before they were saved by the death of Christ. I have addressed this question before when discussing the question of whether OT believers were "born again." 

Some affirm that they were not since, they argue, Christ had not yet died to make new birth possible. But, by that same argument, one could say the same thing concerning any good coming as a direct result of Christ's substitutionary death. But, the scriptures clearly show that OT believers did indeed possess good that resulted from the new covenant in Christ's blood. So, I don't think that believers in the OT went not to the third heaven for the reason that it was before the death of Christ, before they had legal right to go there. 

I don't know the reason although I have some possible reasons in mind. Perhaps it was in order that Christ have the preeminence, which Paul says that he has. (See Col. 1: 15-18)  Also, Christ is said to have entered into heaven, the holy place, as the "forerunner" of believers. (Heb. 6: 20) The Greek word prodromos means running ahead, or leading as in a race. How could Christ be the forerunner if Enoch, Elijah, or all dead OT believers went there first?

We are talking about the state of both the righteous and unrighteous in the interim between death and the resurrection. That state is not in every way fixed and perfect for both righteous and unrighteous. Also, we are at the moment focusing on whether those believers who died before Christ died went to the third heaven or to a heavenly part of Hades or Sheol
  
Is "Paradise" or Abraham's Bosom a part of Hades or Heaven? 

Christ said to the thief on the cross, "today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23: 43). Yet, texts also say that Christ descended into Hades. (Acts 2: 27) So, how should we answer the question - "where did Jesus' spirit go when he died?" There is no question that his body went into the earth (by being laid in the cave), and as Sheol or Hades sometimes intends the grave, so his body went there. But, what of his spirit? 

New Testament texts also affirm that Christ was "among the dead" when he was dead. This was true of his body and his soul or spirit. When Christ passed out of the land of the living, he entered the land of the dead, or Hades. In the bible to be among the living was to be alive and to be among the dead was to be dead. The language of resurrection is that Christ "was raised up from among (Greek ek) the dead." To be raised up from the dead implies that one was among the dead. So, when Christ was among the dead, is this true of his body alone, and not of his soul or spirit?

From the statement Christ made to the penitent and believing thief on his right hand, the day Christ died ("today") he went to Paradise. (Luke 23: 43) So, is Paradise the place where Old Testament believers went in spirit when they died? Is it the same as "Abraham's bosom"? 

But, did Christ not also in spirit go to Hades? What say the scriptures? In future chapters I will be talking about where Christ went when he died and where he was during the three days that he was dead. For now, I want to focus upon whether Paradise and Abraham's Bosom are the same place, which if they are, then we must affirm that OT believers did go immediately to the third heaven when they died and if that is so, we are forced to say that Paradise was or is a part of Sheol or Hades

If one finds it hard to believe that Paradise is a part of Hades, then he will favor the view that Abraham's Bosom is the same as Paradise or third heaven. The story of Lazarus and Dives show that they are both parts of Hades (realm of the dead) and that a gulf divides it

I affirm that Christ went to both places when he died. He went to Paradise and he went to Hades also. So the question is not - "did he go to Paradise or to Hades?" For the truth is, he went to both places. 

If one believes Paradise and Abraham's Bosom are the same place, then of course Christ goes to both Paradise and Hades, for Abraham's Bosom is clearly a part of Hades, or the realm of the dead. Though I do not believe that Abraham's Bosom is Paradise, I still believe Christ went to both places, first one and then the other. But, more on that in upcoming chapters. Keep in mind that the apostle Paul identifies "paradise" with "the third heaven." (II Cor. 12: 2-4)

Some argue that there are references to Abraham's bosom in Jewish writings. Wrote one Jewish source (See here):

"Abraham's bosom" is a metaphor for "heaven". The term is used by Josephus (Discourse concerning Hades), and can also be found in the Talmud (Kiddushin 72b)."

It is argued that at the time of Christ, "Abraham's bosom" or "Abraham's embrace," was commonly used by Jews as a term for heaven or for paradise. However, I have not seen the proof for that. The places alluded to in Jewish literature do not show that they connected it with the third heaven but simply with a heavenly place, with a happy place. As I said in previous chapters, they connected it with the idea of being "gathered unto his people." 

The description of Sheol in the Bible bears some resemblance to the Hades of Greek mythology. Some attempt to make too much of this fact. We might also say that Jesus' teaching on the afterlife resembled not only Greek but Egyptian ideas about the afterlife. But, such resemblance does not prove that the Hebrew is derived from the Pagan. 

What about the problem with people in Abraham's bosom (or heaven or paradise) being able to see people suffering in Hell? And of people in Hades seeing into heaven? Did not also Lazarus lift up his eyes in Hades? Would that not take away from joy and peace in the afterlife? No, not necessarily. 

First of all, those in Abraham's bosom or heaven will see things as God sees them (and they, like he, will not be disturbed in their joy and pleasure by seeing it). Also, the holy angels are said to see the sufferings of people in hell and yet it does not make them lose the joy of heaven. (See Rev. 14: 10) You will be reconciled to God's will and be happy with his decision. 

Thursday, January 26, 2023

Glorious Things Indeed!

I am working on chapters in my present series on the Afterlife and the Intermediate State and is one of the reasons I have not posted anything of that kind in awhile. I have made some short postings citing hymns, and quoting Dr. Bass and Dr. Trader, and in that same manner I want to cite from a great hymn of the Christian faith - "Glorious Things." 

Like many such spiritual songs, God indeed inspired the hymn writers. This one was written by John Newton, the same who wrote "Amazing Grace." You can hear it sung (here). However, they do not sing all the verses. I would hate to have to choose which verses to omit when singing this song! I think this would be one time when I would want to sing them all. The same is true with the song "How Firm A Foundation." Also, some sing a different tune (Austria) to the one referenced above, which is the one I am familiar with and like best. Another acapella singing on Youtube that has all the lines is (here). Sometimes the lyrics are changed a little. For instance, "on their way" is sung as "when they pray." 

A good preacher could pick out any number of such hymns and use them for a short homily in extemporaneous speaking. In fact, many have done so over the years. This song would be such an one.

Glorious things of thee are spoken 
Zion, city of our God 
He, whose word cannot be broken 
Formed thee for His own abode 

"He whose word cannot be broken"! Ponder that deeply! Jesus said this very thing (John 10:35). "Formed thee for His own abode"! Boy, there is a lot to unpack in that pregnant line of verse! Predestination and election are in it. So is the idea of sure salvation. Hallelujah!

On the Rock of Ages founded 
What can shake thy sure repose? 
With salvation's walls surrounded 
Thou may'st smile at all thy foes 

This whole section is filled with "good doctrine" that "drops as rain from heaven" (See Deut. 32: 2). "Sure repose"? How priceless is that? Victory and safety are assured! "Safety (or victory) is of the Lord" (Prov. 21: 31) 

See, the streams of living waters 
Springing from eternal love 
Well supply thy sons and daughters 
And all fear of want remove 

"Well supplied" indeed! Jesus said that every believer in him has within him or her this eternal spring (well), "springing up into everlasting life." (John 7: 38) "All fear of want removed"? Ponder that! Again, how precious is such a state of mind! It reminds us of Psalm 23 and "the Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want."

Children, sons and daughters of Zion, or of God! What a dignity! What nobility! 

Who can faint, while such a river 
Ever flows their thirst to assuage? 
Grace which, like the Lord, the giver 
Never fails from age to age 

Grace never fails! Paul said this also of love. (I Cor. 13: 8) Jesus and his salvation satisfies all spiritual thirst just as he promised ("whoever drinks of the water I give will never thirst" - John 4: 14). God is "the fountain of living waters" (Jer. 2: 13). 

Blest inhabitants of Zion 
Purchased by the Savior's blood 
Jesus, whom their souls rely on 
Makes them kings and priests to God 

Again, each stanza is a gospel message in this section. Zion is blessed because God chose to dwell in her! Here is particular redemption too. Those who God chose to make his home or temple are purchased by the Savior's blood. The same ones chosen and purchased (redeemed) are made kings and priests to God. What an exalted place! All God's people are priests and can go directly in prayer to God through Jesus Christ and by the aid of the Spirit of God.

"Jesus whom their souls rely on." Oh yes, oh yes! They say, as the song, "I can't even walk unless he's holding my hand." Also, he is most reliable! Why rely on anything else?

While in love his Saints he raises 
With himself to reign as King All, 
as priests, his solemn praises 
For thank-off'rings freely bring 

"In love his Saints he raises"! In regeneration and resurrection and exaltation raised. They are engaged daily in his religious service, regularly and unceasingly bringing him praise and thanks.

Savior, if in Zion's city 
I, through grace, a member am 
Let the world deride or pity 
I will glory in Thy name 

The "if" of this verse is not a word of doubt, but of logic or reason. It carries the meaning of "since." In other words, "since I am a member of Zion's city" I will glory in your name no matter what the world thinks of it.

Members of the community of the chosen and redeemed by sovereign grace. Unconditional love. Unmerited favor. So we sing "grace tis a charming sound, harmonious to the ear," and "grace first inscribed my name in God's eternal book." "Amazing grace"

Fading is the sinner's pleasure 
All his boasted pomp and show 
Solid joys and lasting treasure 
None but Zion's children know

"Solid joys"! Not like "the pleasures of sin" which are but "for a season." (Heb. 11: 25) "Lasting treasure"! Jesus and the apostles spoke a lot about being rich towards God, of laying up treasures in heaven, etc. Only "Zion's children" possess solid joys and lasting treasure. So Solomon said - "The wealth of the sinner is stored up for the righteous." (Prov. 13: 22) They have "an inheritance which is imperishable, undefiled, and will not fade away, reserved in heaven" for them (I Peter 1: 4). I wrote a piece on what it means to be children of Zion (here).

Round each habitation hov'ring,
see the cloud and fire appear
for a glory and a cov'ring,
showing that the Lord is near.
Thus deriving from their banner
light by night and shade by day,
safe they feed upon the manna
which he gives them on their way.

This verse is not included in some versions of the song. In fact, often hymnbooks will not have all the verses. But, this is one to keep for sure. These lines of verse refer to God's leading the people from Egypt to the land of promise and how he lead them by a cloud and fire, protecting each tent. So too the feeding on the manna that God provided. God will take care of his people. Wonderful thought! 

Monday, January 23, 2023

Dr. Trader on Fatalism

Dr. Richard Trader writes a good concise biblical understanding of the sovereignty of God. Under "Is Sovereignty Fatalism?" (here) he wrote (emphasis mine):

The sovereignty of God without human responsibility leads to fatalism. God holds us responsible for the choices we make. We must all give account to God for our choices in life. God is sovereign and we are responsible to God. Those who reject the gospel of Christ are responsible for their own just condemnation.

The sovereignty of God includes human responsibility. The farmer plows the soil, sows the seed, and continues to cultivate the field. Yet, only God can give the increase. This was the illustration given by the apostle Paul (1 Corinthians 3:5-9). Here we understand the sovereignty of God concurrent with our responsibility.

God's sovereignty and our responsibility are concurrent throughout the Bible. Both are clearly taught in the Bible. God is the Almighty, beside whom there is no other. He is the Creator, sustaining and ruling over all. Yet, God has given us choice that makes us responsible. Therein, we find the basis of God's judgment. Therefore, God speaks to us in the Bible with exhortations and commands.

The sovereignty of God never negates our responsibility. Theological systems that try to understand sovereignty to the neglect of responsibility, or the reverse, always lead to error. Understand that God's sovereignty and our responsibility are concurrent. Therefore, everyone of us shall give account of himself to God. That leaves no room for fatalism.

I agree but would only add that there is a vicarious responsibility, where I, by decree of God, become responsible for the one sin of Adam. Likewise, we see vicarious responsibility in Christ the second Adam, by decree of God, becoming responsible for the sins of all believers. This is taught clearly in Romans chapter five. There is also what we call "corporate responsibility." It is akin to group responsibility. As a group, we human beings share group responsibility for what Adam did through Eve and the Serpent. 

In theological language, Christ became responsible for the sins of believers, of human beings. As a shepherd Christ has responsibility for the well being of the sheep under his care. Parents have responsibility for their children. Christ is the believer's "surety," his insurance, his security.

Sunday, January 22, 2023

Dr. Bass On Women Teachers

This is a follow up to the previous posting and the citation from Dr. Jeremiah Bass of Cincinnati Primitive Baptist Church. The following is taken from his recent sermon "The Gathering (Acts 2: 41-47)" (here). I continue to be impressed with Elder Bass. I want to cite some things he said in that sermon and make some comments on them. Also, all highlighting (bold making) of his words are mine. First, he said:

"Let me give you some examples that are happening right now outside our Sunday morning gathering. Of course, we have the Bible doctrines studies that we are doing on the Sunday afternoons that we have a fellowship meal. This is very important because understanding systematic theology is important, and I appreciate the help that Brother David is giving on that. Also, we have the Bible ethics studies which David and I will recommence in March. On Friday mornings, a few of us men have been getting together to encourage each other as fathers. And to help us be purposeful, we’ve been reading through a book together (Parenting with Words of Grace by William Smith). Brother Adam is leading it, and I appreciate his willingness to do that. The ladies have been getting together for prayer at the T’s home. Again, so important that we pray together and fellowship together. Notice the emphasis on prayer in Acts 2:42."

I am sure that many hard line Hardshells will not be pleased with Cincinnati church for having the character and group behavior above described. The stubborn ones, the Landmarkers and those married to tradition, will not like it that this church is having bible classes and considering having women teachers. Forming smaller groups within the larger church group, like in choirs, or bible classes, is frowned upon with such hard headed ones, for it is "too much like the Missionaries or Arminians." Of course, whether or not the Hardshells are pleased with the things Cincinnati church is doing, is of little consequence, for I am sure that God is well pleased with it, and that trumps all. 

Next, he said: 
 
"Here I want to encourage us to do something else that I’m not sure is currently happening in our church in a systematic way, but which needs to happen if we are going to be Biblical about discipleship – and that is older women teaching younger women. This is what Paul says in Titus 2: “The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; that they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed” (3-5)."

I have emphasized these very things in these postings:

1) Can Women Vote In Church Decisions? VIII (here)
2) Hardshells & Mission Opposition IX (here)

I have also said that Hardshells are not using all the gifts of their members in that many laymen and women may be used as good teachers of the word in Sunday schools or Bible classes. I have also said that their opposition to musical instruments has not allowed for their talented musicians to use that talent in worship. Because they reject special singing by choirs, quartets, trios, solos, etc., they also do not allow members with special singing skills to use them to the fullest for the edification of the church. 

In the two above referenced articles I deal with the issue of women teachers from a doctrinal standpoint and deal with Paul's prohibition on women teachers.

Next, he said:
 
"Now I think that something has happened over the years in PB churches, which has come about as the result of wanting to rightly safeguard the Biblical insistence of male leadership in the churches and the fact that the apostle Paul says that women are not to teach or usurp authority over the men (1 Tim. 2:11- 12). But we have gone way too far, and we have ended up in a place where women don’t think they are supposed to teach the Bible in any context. My friends, this ought not so to be! What Paul is saying in the passage we just read in Titus, is that it is important that we have godly and spiritually mature women doing Biblical teaching in the context of the church – older women teaching the younger women. It bothers me that we are so quick to pounce on certain aspects of this text (for example, that women are to be workers at home and obedient to their own husbands), but to completely neglect other aspects of it (like the teaching part of that text)."

You think "something has happened over the years in PB churches"? Oh boy! Have they not indeed! Though they claim to be "primitive" or "original" they are not in so many things they believe and practice. They claim to be without change in doctrine and belief from what they were originally as a group, which is a false claim, the opposite being true. The "anti" spirit that is against Sunday schools, bible classes, prayer meetings, etc., is seen in everything they do and say. The anti Hardshell spirit will resist these beliefs of Dr. Bass. 

Also, as I said, I agree that the PB churches have had lots of godly and wise people who are knowledgeable in scripture, and they could have been used as teachers of the young or each other. God had a teaching job for these sisters but their Hardshell tradition kept them from using it. 

Next, he said: 
 
"What am I getting at? I would love to see the women of our church teaching and learning the Bible from one another, and I want to help. I know we have women who are qualified and capable. I want to help equip you and give you my support, so you feel equipped and ready and able to do this. There is no one right way for this to happen. Both formal and informal teaching is needed and valuable. The pastor cannot do everything, so I want us to work together to establish a church culture where women are teaching each other in accordance with the instructions from Titus 2, etc. The instruction is given to women, but women are not left without the support of the pastors and the church as they carry it out. I know this may sound intimidating and something outside of our comfort zone, but I'm confident that the Lord will give wisdom to carry out what we are told to do. The church will come alongside you and support you. The pastors will come alongside you and support you. The resources of the church will be made available for you to do this. This ought to be a regular part of our church. It is needed and it is important."

Amen. Every member of the church has a job the Lord wants him or her to do. Also, all should be involved to some degree in teaching others and making disciples. We can do that in the home, in the community, among our friends and acquaintances, etc. We all can find ways to communicate the truth of the word of God to others. 

Next, he said:

"If you are unsure how to go about this, please come talk to me. I am more than happy and eager to support a ladies’ study. It is an important part of the discipleship process."

Amen. Glad to see this spirit.

Next, he said:

"The church is not merely a school; it is more like a family." 

So true. That would make a good Sunday sermon too. Show how the church is both like a school and a family. It is interesting that Hardshells have also called themselves "Old School," and yet they are against seminaries, Sunday schools, bible classes, etc. One does not get "schooled" in a Hardshell church except he learn something in a sermon by a preacher. 

Next, he said:

"Nor is evangelism just for the preacher. Here is something that might surprise you, but it is true: you are the evangelists of this church. What is our program for evangelism? Just this, that you be salt and light in the places where God has put you. You are to carry the seeds of the gospel where you go, as they did in the book of Acts: “Therefore they that were scattered abroad went everywhere preaching the word” (Acts 8:4). This is how the early church did it." 

Amen. Elder John Watson, one of their founders, saw an anti evangelistic spirit manifesting itself among the first Old School Hardshells, their preachers failing to exhort the lost for fear someone would think they were Arminian. This anti evangelistic spirit will not want a preacher too much a promoter of evangelism as it will be seen as "Arminian." Well, the evangelistic spirit is the spirit that is of God. The anti evangel spirit is not of God.

Monday, January 16, 2023

Dr. Bass on Interpreting Providence

Dr. Jeremiah Bass, lead pastor and elder at Cincinnati Primitive Baptist Church, in his daily blog (at the church's web page - here), wrote these words under blog entry titled "Faith Seeks Understanding":

"...we can so easily misinterpret and misunderstand God's dealings with us in providence and his instruction to us in Scripture when we don't come to them with faith in him."  

This reminds me of what I wrote not long ago in a posting titled "My Own Failures at Interpretation" (here). In that posting I wrote these words:

Who is as the wise man? and who knows the interpretation of a thing?" (Eccl. 8:1)

My failures at "interpretation" are not so much in interpreting Scripture, or historical records, or laws and statutes, but events, both in my life and in the world. I have often misinterpreted God's providence, or what he is doing in my life, or how he is answering prayer.

John Gill, commenting upon this verse, wrote:

"...this may be understood of the solution of any difficulties in things natural or civil; and of the interpretation of any of the works of God, either in nature or providence, as well as of his word...solve doubts, remove difficulties, interpret nature, the works and word of God."

Events happen in our lives and they are signs, but often we don't properly "see," perceive, or interpret those signs. I could give many examples of this in my own personal life. You could too.

If God is at work in our lives, can we see it? Are we properly interpreting what he is doing and why? God help us!


Oh how many times have I misinterpreted God's providence as things were happening in my life! Yes, I got a few things right, but many more wrong. I can also say that I misinterpreted scripture when I was a Hardshell Baptist. I hope that I can do better in both in coming days. Of course, I think understanding the bible correctly in its statements and narratives has been much easier than understanding God's day to day purpose in my unique trials. 

The bible tells me a lot about why things happen the way they do. But, it speaks in generalities, and not directly to my personal present trials. As far as my personal trials are concerned (which are specifically ordained of God for me - I Thess. 3:3), I have often queried in my mind - "why is this happening?" Or, "what is God doing?" Or, "what is God's purpose in this?" Or, "is this a disciplinary thing?" Or, "did you open that door for me (give me this opportunity)?" Or, "is this of the Devil?" Or, "is this a test? Is God testing me?" 

Yes, elder Bass is right about how easy it is to "misinterpret and misunderstand God's dealings with us in providence." 

Questions For Further Meditation

1. So, how related is bible interpretation to interpretation of providence? Can one be better at one than the other? Will good bible understanding bring good understanding of providence?

2. Since the gift of prophecy (which prophets have of God) involves properly interpreting present and past events (as well as foretelling future events), and since we are to all pray for the gift of prophecy (I Cor. 14: 1), should we not be praying for greater understanding of providence (ongoing events of the day)?

3. How can we discern "the hand of God" in events? 

Song Lyrics That Encourage Me

I have at times quoted some of the lyrics to the song (below) to myself. Especially the words of the chorus (in bold) came to my mind today while praying and meditating.

1 God hath not promised skies always blue, 
Flower-strewn pathways all our lives through; 
God hath not promised sun without rain, 
Joy without sorrow, peace without pain. 
 
But God hath promised strength for the day, 
Rest for the labor, light for the way, 
Grace for the trials, help from above, 
Unfailing sympathy, undying love. 

2 God hath not promised we shall not know 
Toil and temptation, trouble and woe; 
He hath not told us we shall not bear 
Many a burden, many a care. 

3 God hath not promised smooth roads and wide, 
Swift, easy travel, needing no guide; 
Never a mountain, rocky and steep, 
Never a river, turbid and deep.

Those highlighted words are beautiful poetry and are profound in meaning. They also afford great comfort and encouragement to me and help me endure every trial. "Strength for the day"! Hallelujah! "Rest for our labor"! Praise his holy name! "Light on the way"! Glorious! God's word is a lamp unto my feet and a light for my path. "Grace for our trials"! Thank you Lord! "Help from above"! Our Ebenezer! Our omnipotent Helper! "Unfailing sympathy, undying love"! What a friend we have in Jesus!

As a concluding thought, consider that what is stated is true now, not in the world to come. In the world to come, throughout eternity, we will have skies always blue! Then we will have joy without sorrow!

"Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength." 
(Isa. 26: 4)

Sunday, January 15, 2023

Now That is Singing In The Spirit!

The following song I had never heard before. I love hearing new songs of the faith, ones I have not heard before. I have not been able to find the lyrics to this song and I am listening to those who have sung it. While doing so today I found this group singing it as if in a group singing school. If you will listen to it and watch the participants you will see them filled with the Spirit, happy and jubilant! My people! I love the old sister who first stands up in praise while she sings! I love it! Thrills my soul!

"Oh What a Morning" (here round one) (here round two)

This family group sings it and the words are easier to hear. (here) It is by the The Mylon Hayes Family. Or by a choir (here).

p.s.

This song is from the Vaughan Quartet from the 1920s and they sing "Jesus Lover Of My Soul" in a way I rarely hear (where one of the parts stands out as the lead), the way I heard it once from Hardshell preachers of that time period or a little later sing it. They were brothers in the flesh as well as PB preachers. They had beautiful voices as this quartet. Eddie Beshear was one whose name I remember. I think they may be relatives to Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear. Listen to it (here)

p.s.s.

Also, check out their rendition of "Amazing Grace" (here)


Friday, January 13, 2023

Miller's Excellent Analysis

SBC pastor of many years, David Miller, of SBC Voices web site (which I have been reading and following for many years), wrote the following under his posting titled "What’s Wrong with Us? Facing Our Problems." I want to cite from that excellent writing and offer a few amens and additional thoughts (emphasis mine).

Brother Miller wrote:

"This new gospel of self-fulfillment is attractive but false. By adopting this discounted faith, we leave people thinking they are “good Christians” because they go to church (or watch online), do some volunteer work, and drop a few mites in offering plate. Jesus demanded we die to self and live for him." (here)

This message is so needed today in the Christian community! 

Dave said further:

"I grew up in an evangelicalism that teetered on the brink of legalism. Our mantra was “I don’t drink, smoke, cuss, or chew, and I don’t go with girls who do.” The pendulum has certainly swung, with theologies trumpeting grace. Thank God – legalism is spiritual poison. We do not earn our way into the favor of God with rules."

Here here! Amen. 

David also wrote:

"There is always a danger, though, that when the pendulum swings, it goes too far. This one has. According to Ephesians 2:10, we were saved by grace through faith “to do good works.” When we are saved, we become obligated to a life of holiness. “Be holy, because I am holy.” Paul told the immoral Corinthians “You are not your own, you were bought with a price. Therefore, honor God with your bodies.” 

We are set apart for God and must not live for this world. Balancing our freedom in Christ with the call to holiness is tricky, but we must do it."

Again, this is so true and "spot on." "Without holiness no one will see the Lord." (Heb. 12: 14)

Pastor Miller also wrote:

"We find charismatic doctrine unbiblical and their practices excessive. Some (many?) overreact with an oppressive cessationism that treats spiritual enthusiasm, passion, and the inner ministry of the Spirit with suspicion. There is a danger not just guarding against the errors of the charismatic movement, but quenching the Holy Spirit. We must be filled with the Spirit, develop the fruit of the Spirit, walk daily in his power, and seek his wisdom and direction."

Again, those most familiar with my writings know how I have emphasized these same points. We are so prone to extremes whereas we need to be moderate in things. (See Phil. 4: 5)

Pastor Miller also wrote:

"Evangelism is unpleasant, unpopular, and confrontational. Paul told us that the gospel is offensive to those who do not believe it. For many, the answer has been to replace the hard truths of the gospel with a softer, gentler version, removing the offense."

It may be easy to witness to our family or community members who are already a little familiar with Christianity and its message, but it is not so easy in other cultures and places. Foreign missionaries will tell you about this. How to witness for Christ in countries hostile to Christianity is hard and dangerous work and one which assuredly involves being confrontational with the leaders of the false religions. Street preachers in our country know of the hostility many who live on the streets or walk the streets have towards their preaching.

Wednesday, January 11, 2023

Beliefs about the Afterlife (iv)



"If a man die, shall he live again? 
all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come." 
(Job 14: 14)

Is the soul (or spirit) distinct from the body? Is the soul immortal or mortal? Does the death of the body mean the death of the spirit? Is the dying of a person the end of him? Of all existence (annihilation)? What happens when a person dies? Is there an afterlife? What does God have to do with the afterlife? Is there really a judgment by God for every person, a judgment that will grant access to heaven or condemn to torment? These are the questions we have been contemplating in the chapters preceding. In this chapter we will continue our look at the teaching of Christ about Hades and the place of the dead of Luke chapter 16 and the story of the rich man and Lazarus. 

Concerning the story of Dives and Lazarus Peter Gurry of the Gospel Coalition wrote the following about the story and its use and misuse among theologians and bible students (See here- emphasis mine):

"It’s been used to rebuke the rich, defend salvation by poverty, teach about the afterlife, condemn antebellum slavery, even promote women’s suffrage. Jesus’s story in Luke 16:19–31 certainly raises a series of questions. Can heaven be seen from hell? Does wealth make the difference between the two? Are those in heaven aware of (and indifferent to) the suffering of those in hell? Is this a parable or a true story?"

No doubt that the story of Dives and Lazarus have been misused and abused. Also, it is true that the story raises questions in our minds as well as answering them. This is what I stated in the preceding chapter where I first introduced this story. 

Curry says further:

"The account is unique to Luke’s Gospel and has several other exclusive features besides. How should we interpret it and what can it teach us today?"

Yes, indeed! "How should we interpret it"! Should we deny its plain teaching? Will we twist and distort it? Will we resist its teachings? Will we ignore what it says about the afterlife?

He says further:

"But does it matter whether or not this is a parable? I don’t think so and neither did Calvin. We agree that the main issue is comprehending “the doctrine which it contains.”" 

I agree. However, I will insist that it is not a parable. But, for the sake of argument, I am willing to assume that it is a parable. 

He says further:

"The angels, five brothers, and Moses and the prophets play supporting roles, as does Abraham. The main characters, of course, are Lazarus and the rich man. Although tradition has called this man “Dives” (the Latin word for “rich man”), he has no name in the original. He’s introduced as one who literally wears his wealth on his sleeve (“clothed in purple and fine linen”) and feels not the least pain of hunger (he “feasted sumptuously every day”)."

Yes, the story could well be called "reversal of fortune." He who was rich on earth became poor in Hades. He who was poor on earth became rich in Hades. The rich man became the beggar, begging for water. 

He says further:

"The contrasts don’t end there. Upon death, Lazarus finds himself at Abraham’s “bosom,” which is probably a reference to the heavenly banquet (cf. John 13:23). For any Jew at the time, this seating arrangement would have been a mark of the highest honor. And what about the rich man? Despite the blessing of his great wealth, he ends up in Hades where he’s in torment. It’s hard to tell whether this Hades is intended to be different from hell (or Gehenna). It’s certainly not where he wants to be."

"Abraham's bosom" means that Lazarus is with his people, has been "gathered unto his people." It means that he is reclining at the banquet table (the ancient peoples often lay on sofas around the table). It tells us that Lazarus is enjoying himself and is peaceful and at rest. It denotes intimate communion with Abraham and all his kin. All believers are "children of Abraham." So Paul affirmed - "if you are Christ's (special possession) then are you Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Gal. 3: 29) And, - "those who are of faith are sons of Abraham." (Vs. 7) 

Curry says further:

"From this surprising turn of events, some conclude the parable teaches that the poor go to heaven and the rich to hell. The problem with such a view, as Augustine noted long ago, is that poor Lazarus is carried to the side of wealthy Abraham. If wealth alone determines our fate, then Abraham should be in Hades right along with the rich man."

Wealth alone does not assure one a place in the tormenting side of the gulf. Nor does poverty assure one a place on the comforting side of the great gulf. Yet the Bible teaches that very few rich folk are saved, the saved being made up mostly of those who were not rich on earth. 

"Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?” But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” (Matt. 19: 23-26)

James, the Lord's brother, also wrote:

"Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?" (James 2: 5)

This text is not saying that a man is chosen to salvation because he or she is monetarily poor but is affirming that the chosen (elect) are mostly made up of people who were not of the rich class.

Curry says further:

"The most important lesson this parable teaches is a warning about money. Wealth calcified the rich man’s heart. Though wealth doesn’t always have this effect, who can deny that it often does? As many have realized, either we will own our money, or it will own us. You cannot serve God and money, as Jesus said a few verses before (Luke 16:13)."

Very few rich people go to heaven. 

The apostle Paul said - "not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called." (I Cor. 1: 26) He did not say "not any" but "not many."

Jesus, in summing up one of his homilies on this very thing, said: “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.” (Luke 12: 21)

The Story's Lessons

Lessons from the story involve the eternal destinies of human beings and what happens to them when they die and leave the body. And, the soul or spirit does leave the body in the story. It is specifically mentioned that Dives was "buried" but there is no mention of the burial of Lazarus. This is not without signification. Truly the rich man no doubt would have had a wealthy man's funeral, coffin, sarcophagus, and grave site and memorial stones. 

It has much to say about salvation (or soteriology). It has much to say about the "intermediate state," and the afterlife, the subject of this treatise. It teaches against the idea of universal salvation. Though it does not positively state that the torments of Dives were unending, yet it seems to be implied. 

Beliefs Overthrown 

1. Man has no spirit or life separate from or outside of his physical existence in a body (Materialism).
2. There is no afterlife.
3. There are no angels or spirits (spirit world).
4. All go to a good happy place (heaven or paradise) when they die ("Universal Salvation").
5. There is no Hell or place of torment after death for people.
6. Wealthy people are humanity's elite class. 
7. Hell's torments are remedial and end with entrance into paradise. 
8. Reincarnation 
9. Soul sleep
10. Purgatory and Limbo

Beliefs Upheld

1. Immortality or conscious existence of the soul or spirit after the death of the body.
2. There is an afterlife.
3. There is a spirit world where spirits (incorporeal beings) exist.
4. Salvation of some people (destiny heaven) and damnation of some people (destiny hell).
5. Hearing Moses and the prophets (and heeding their message) are a means of obtaining heaven.
6. The elect are made up of people who were generally poor on earth. 
7. Eternal destinies are unchangeable in the afterlife (no salvation after death).

Wednesday, January 4, 2023

Beliefs about the Afterlife (iii)



"I Know What Lies Ahead" - This is in essence what the apostle Paul said several times (though in other ways of saying the same thing). It is certainly true with Christ and the prophets. Those who believe the bible also know what lies ahead for them as respects where they will go when they die. Recall the text I cited in the first chapter in this short series and the words of Paul who said "we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God not made with hands eternal in the heavens." (II Cor. 5: 1) 

One leading text on the intermediate state is the famous story of the

The Rich Man (Dives) & Lazarus 

19 “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and [h]fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with [i]the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’ 27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’ ” (Luke 16: 19-31 nkjv)

This teaching from the Savior about the intermediate state must be examined carefully in order for our questions about death and the afterlife to be correctly answered. That is not to say that this teaching of the Lord answers all questions or that the interpretation of it in whole or in part have been singular, for they have been varied in the Christian community. For instance, when I was with the Hardshell or "Primitive" Baptists, many rejected the common interpretation (that it informs of what happens to good and bad people when they die) and even officially declared that to believe said common view was heresy that merited exclusion from church membership or from the ordained clergy. 

The reason for their rejection of it was due to the fact that they thought that such an interpretation would give credence to the view that teaches that men may be the means or instruments in the eternal salvation of fellow men and women by preaching the word to them (rich man thought Lazarus could save his brothers were he able to go back from the dead, inferentially by preaching to them and bringing them to repent and turn to the Lord). They believed that believing in such a system of salvation through such means is heresy and cannot therefore be what the teaching of the Lord is affirming. They will seek therefore to interpret the story allegorically and take nothing literally. They will give it a parabolic interpretation and make the parable to support anti means ideas. They would affirm that the story should not be understood literally. 

For instance, many of them will affirm that 1) the rich man represents Jews under the law covenant and Lazarus to represent the Gentiles who are without any scripture or covenant with God, and 2) the Jewish nation and the law covenant (Sinai) were put to death by the death of Christ and 3) the inauguration of the new covenant, involving the kingdom of God was taken away from the Jews, and 4) God granted the kingdom (church) to the Gentiles. 

In my second ordination to the ministry, some in the Hardshell presbytery asked me my views on it and I thought I was not going to be ordained because I stated that I believed in the common view. But, those asking did not push the matter any further. Not all "Primitive Baptists" agree with those who want to make it a test of fellowship or orthodoxy, but still it is believed by many. 

Of course, the story of Lazarus and the unnamed rich man is not a parable, for in none of the parables did the Lord use a personal name. Lazarus is mentioned by name and this indicates that Christ is talking about a real person who existed and had lived and died prior to Christ teaching about him. He is not the same Lazarus who Christ raised from the dead, and who was the brother of Mary and Martha, whose home Christ frequented. 

Further, the story is literal. It is not merely symbolic or allegorical. Lazarus is real and does not "represent" anyone but himself and those like him (who believe in God and his word). Hades is real and not symbolic of something else. Abraham, Lazarus, the rich man ("Dives" - being "rich man" in Latin), are all literal and real people. Abraham's bosom is his bosom (although Abraham is not in the afterlife in body and so "bosom" must refer to his temporary spiritual body, which opens another avenue of thought). In other words, how could Abraham have a bosom if he is in the realm of the dead in spirit? And, how could Dives have a "tongue" if he is in Hades in spirit? Though the story of Dives and Lazarus answers a lot of our questions about the afterlife and realm of the dead or spirit world, nevertheless it also raises questions that the story itself does not answer (probably because some information is assumed as already known and some additional information he intended to give later by the apostles). We might be tempted to say that the story raises more questions than it answers.

Ghostly Appearances

So, why is bodily language used of the spirits of dead people? Since Abraham, Lazarus, and Dives are all dead, and their bodies in graves, and since their spirits are not dead, though without a body or physical existence, and are in the world of spirits, how can body parts be ascribed to them, to spirits? How can they be recognized if they are spirits? The Bible supports and assumes the idea (proposition or enthymeme) that spirits of dead humans may be "seen" by the living and that their spiritual form or appearance of them was as when they were alive on earth. So, do the ghosts of the dead have a form that looks like their former bodies? It seems so. Consider that in the story Abraham still looked like Abraham even though he was a spirit in Hades. So too did Lazarus and Dives. Further, the rich man sees Lazarus and knows it is Lazarus. But, spirits are invisible, so how can they be seen? Again, we might be tempted to think the story raises more questions than it answers. But, let us not be thus tempted.

I think the appearance of departed spirits is more like what we see in "holograms." We saw this in the first Star Wars movie series where Princess Leia is seen in such an hologram image. 



In Acts 12, Peter is miraculously released from prison when an angel visits him at night. Peter escapes and returns to the house where a group is gathered praying. A servant girl named Rhoda goes to answer the door, hears Peter's voice and is so excited that she forgets to open the door and so runs back to tell the others that Peter is there. 

"But they said to her, “You are beside yourself!” Yet she kept insisting that it was so. So they said, “It is his angel.” (Acts 12: 15)

It is perhaps that they also thought that the person speaking was Peter's ghost or spirit, or as many think, his guardian angel. Either way, the disciples must have believed that a person's ghost or angelic guardian spoke with that person's voice and even looked like the person. Further, they thought the angel or spirit of Peter would speak with the unique voice, slang, and dialect of Peter. I find it very interesting that the disciples thought that the angel of Peter would be some kind of replica of Peter. I had in my mind at one time that the text (from my faulty memory) says that they said "it is his spirit" but the text says "it is his angel." I could understand how the spirits of dead men could be able to speak and look like they did while on earth in a body, but not understand how Peter's angel could do so. What they said raises questions. Notice this text:

"But when they saw him walking on the sea they thought it was a ghost, and cried out..." (Mark 6: 49)

Not only could we envision how a spirit would have the ability to become visible in a kind of ghostly way or in the manner of a hologram image, but recall that in the movie Princess Leia's hologram image was able to talk and communicate as if it were actually her. 

Think also of the ghostly appearance of the miser "Marley" in Dicken's famous Christmas story about "Scrooge." Marley appears to Scrooge as a ghost walking and talking with chains.




The ghost or spirit of Marley was a likeness to his physical appearance when in the physical body, at the time of his death. So, at what point in our earthly life is the way we will look in the afterlife in spirit? Will it be as we looked when we were young, middle life, or aged, or when we died? The spirit of the infant or toddler, will it be look like the infant? So, again, these are not easy questions to answer. 

Perhaps we do have a kind of "spiritual body" (an oxymoron?) that is a kind of "doppelganger," a mysterious exact double of a living person. It's a German word that literally translates to "double walker" or "double goer". A doppelganger is not, therefore, someone who merely resembles you, but is rather an exact double, including the way you walk, act, talk, and dress. A doppelganger is therefore a ghostly counterpart of a living person. 

When the prophet Samuel was called forth from the spirit world, from Sheol (or Hades), from the bosom of Abraham, by the Witch of Endor at the request of King Saul (1 Samuel 28:3–25), Saul at once recognized that the appearance of the spirit of Samuel resembled his appearance on earth. Saul had known Samuel and so knew what he looked like when he was alive. 

So, we see three spirits of human beings who have died (left their bodies) in the story, Abraham, Dives, and Lazarus. These spirits are viewed and described as if they still had bodies. The rich man suffered from thirst, but how can a spirit feel physical thirst? Lazarus is said to be "comforted" and to enjoy himself, but again how can spirits experience pleasure? 

As we saw in the previous postings in this series, Paul taught that the spirit of the believer, when he dies, will exit his clothing (body), or his house (body), and will have a temporary body/clothing, or a way of appearing in a body. By this power the angels, who are by nature spirit, were able to present themselves in a visible form in the bible. So, envision that same power being given to the "spirits of just men made perfect" (Heb. 12: 23). Jesus had the power after his resurrection to appear and disappear (going through walls). 

Christians sing a hymn whose title is in the form of a question - "shall we know each other there?" Notice some of the words of it.

1. When we hear the music ringing
In the bright celestial dome,
When sweet angel voices, singing,
Gladly bid us welcome home,
To the land of ancient story,
Where the dwellers know no care,
In that land of light and glory;
Shall we know each other there?

Chorus:
Shall we know each other?
Shall we know each other?
Shall we know each other?
Shall we know each other there?

2. When the holy angels meet us,
As we go to join their band,
Shall we know the friends that greet us
In the glorious, happy land?
Shall we see the same eyes shining,
On us as in days of yore?
Shall we feel the same arms twining,
Fondly round us as before?
[Chorus]

3. Yes, my earth-worn soul rejoices,
And my weary heart grows light;
For the sweet immortal voices
And th' angelic faces bright
That shall sing with us the story
Of redemption round the throne,
Are with us the heirs of glory,
And we'll know as we are known
.

4. O ye weary, sad, and tossed ones!
Droop not, faint not by the way;
Ye shall join the loved and lost ones
In the land of perfect day.
Harp strings touched by angel fingers,
Murmur in my raptured ear;
Evermore their sweet song lingers,
"We shall know each other there!"

In our next posting (chapter) we will continue our analysis of the story of Lazarus and Dives

Monday, January 2, 2023

Beliefs about the Afterlife (ii)



Of Moses, who lived in Egypt in primitive times, the record is -

"And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and deeds." (Acts 7: 22)

Moses was knowledgeable of the beliefs of the Egyptians relative to the afterlife. Though Moses did not write much on the intermediate state, yet one of his expressions respecting death, is seen in this verse wherein Moses describes the death of the patriarch Abraham. 

"Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people." (Gen. 25: 8)

This was a common expression of Moses (See also Gen. 25: 17; 35: 29; 49: 29; 49: 33; Num. 20: 24, 26; 27: 13; 31: 2; Deut. 32: 50; etc.). I have written on its significance in this posting (here). It is an interesting expression and does not, as I affirm, refer to the body being placed in a cemetery plot. It is also ironical in that death would normally be expected to have taken Abraham away from his people (in the "land of the living") and not to take him to his people. On that expression I will have more to say in an upcoming post dealing with the terms used in scripture to describe the death experience, especially of the people of God.

Further, Psalm 90 is ascribed to Moses and in that Psalm he said:

"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." (Psa. 90: 10)

The Egyptians picture, in their hieroglyphs, a bird flying away from a corpse to symbolize how the soul or spirit of the body flies away at death. 

The ancient Egyptians believed that when they died their "spiritual body" would continue to exist in an afterlife very similar to their living world, in a "spirit world." In this respect they are like most of the ancient Greeks and other primitive communities. However, entry into this afterlife was not guaranteed to be good for a person. There is no universal salvation at death for the Egyptian. The dead had to negotiate a dangerous underworld journey and face the final judgment before they were granted access to the place of delight. In this respect it is similar to the Greek idea and other primitive societies that believed in the immortality of the soul. Further, nearly all religions today likewise believe in the immortality of the soul, at least for some of the human race. 

Belief in life after death was central to Egyptian religion. The ancient Egyptians had a strong belief in an underworld, in eternal life, and in a rebirth of the soul after death. Further, belief about the gods and the afterlife was an important social belief that bound all Egyptians together, and was no doubt used by the ruling elite to keep the masses under control and working hard for the Pharoah (who was believed to be God incarnate, or a son of God or some god). If you did not please the ruler, king, or dictator, you could lose both your earthly life and also hope of salvation after death (and earn annihilation or punishment after death). This same thing is seen even in professing Christian sects and denominations when their leaders tell their followers that obedience to them (as God's priests and appointed rulers) would determine fate both in the present and after death. 

The elaborate, time-intensive burials of Egyptians, and other primitive peoples, represent one proof that they had beliefs about the afterlife, of gods or god, and of the spirit world, and of spiritual forces. It is the same today in nearly every culture and religion on earth, being tied to religious practices and beliefs, and to philosophy too, or shall we say in metaphysics too. Each religion makes attempts to explain death

How to handle the bodies of the dead became governed by norms and laws, specific to each society and all designed to show concern for the well being of the dead in the afterlife. One way to stay connected with the dead was by burying bodies in known spots near where family members lived, in cemeteries and graveyards, or in some cave. Also, funeral rituals were often very important, and which were intended to help the dead find their way in the afterlife, or hinder their well being if not buried properly. 

Said one source in my research for this post (here - emphasis mine throughout):

"Osiris would determine the virtue of the deceased's soul and grant those deemed deserving a peaceful afterlife. The Egyptian concept of 'eternal life' was often seen as being reborn indefinitely. Therefore, the souls who had lived their life elegantly were guided to Osiris to be born again." 

That was a citation from Mojsov, Bojana (2001). "The Ancient Egyptian Underworld in the Tomb of Sety I: Sacred Books of Eternal Life". 

The same source says:

"In order to achieve the ideal afterlife, many practices had to be performed during one's life. This may have included acting justly and following the beliefs of Egyptian creed. Additionally, the Egyptians stressed the rituals completed after an individual's life has ended. In other words, it was the responsibility of the living to carry out the final traditions required so the dead could promptly meet their final fate. Ultimately, maintaining high religious morals by both the living and the dead, as well as complying to a variety of traditions, guaranteed the deceased a smoother transition into the underworld."

The Egyptians, like other cultures, believed that the dead affected living people, and vise versa, living people affected dead people. This is believed today among many far eastern peoples where there is worship of the spirits of dead ancestors. Some of this ideology also was brought into Hebrew and Christian theologies of the afterlife. Mormons, for instance, have baptisms for the dead. Some Catholics pray to and for the dead. However, the bible knows nothing of this. People who have died cannot have any influence with the living and the living can have no influence with the dead to change the state of the dead. Egyptians believed that if the living did not properly mummify and bury the dead then the dead would suffer adverse consequences in the afterlife. 

Necromancy has been a very important part of nearly all religions, though it was forbidden by God in the old testament scriptures, which prohibition was not changed in the new testament. (See Deut. 18: 10-11; Lev. 20: 27) Talking with the spirits of the dead has been a common practice. You see it in New Age disciples. You see it in Voodoo rituals. You see it in far east nations, like Japan, where family members attempt contact with dead family members by lighting candles around pictures of the dead, or around their graves. You see it in disciples of the "Spiritualist" movement, where seances and channeling are the stuff. 

The bible condemns contacting the spirits of the dead, or of demons. It knows nothing of praying to the dead (as in some Catholic communities), of praying to Mary or the apostles or saints, nor of performing rights for the dead (as did the Egyptians and as the Mormons who have their baptisms for the unbaptized dead). 

One good source says (emphasis mine - see here):

"Necromancy, sometimes referred to as a form of "black" magic, is a term used to describe communication and dealings with the dead performed by powerful wizards or sorcerers. Unlike most modern mediums whose goal is simply to communicate with the dead, necromancers generally have a practical goal in mind. Their interactions may be intended to foretell the future, uncover secrets, recover someone from the dead, or even use a deceased body as a soldier or weapon. Necromancy has been practiced from the earliest civilizations and is still practiced today."

Said the same source further:

"Necromancy has existed throughout history. It was practiced in ancient civilizations in Egypt, Babylonia, Rome, Greece, Persia, and Chaldea. It may have been associated with shamanism, though it was also related to ancestor worship. Recorded stories of necromancy in ancient times come from Homer’s Odyssey, Ovid’s Metamorphoses, and the Bible."

Said the same source:

"While books and movies such as Frankenstein, Dracula, and The Mummy do not necessarily use the term "necromancy," they all relate to using or interacting with the risen dead. Mediums (people who claim to communicate with dead) are often called upon to ask the dead for secrets or to foretell the future. In addition, popular games and television shows include reanimation of the dead (many focus on zombies, which have a different history). Even books and movies for young people, including the Harry Potter series, have themes related to necromancy."

All religions accept the view that there is a spirit world. They believe that there are beings who are incorporeal, not made of physical matter. They all have ideas about how the physical world is connected to the spiritual world, and whether communication may occur between the two. The bible has much to tell us about the spirit world. When I was a young minister I read Clarence Larkin's book "The Spirit World." It gives us what the bible has to say upon that subject. I don't recall disagreeing with much of what he wrote.

Crossing Death's River

Our previous source says:

"Ancient Egyptians theorized the passage to the afterlife in a series of stages. The first phase was believed to encompass the vehicle of transportation, which would eventually direct their departed souls to immortality." 

The Greeks also envisioned crossing a river as describing the first experience of the soul in death. It was called the river Styx. Passage over the river involved a boat as the vehicle of transportation. 

The Hebrew Christian tradition also envisions crossing the river Jordan and entering the land of promise as an illustration of what happens to the soul of the chosen people upon the death of their bodies. In Greek mythology, Styx is a river that forms the boundary between Earth (Gaia) and the Underworld. In John Bunyan’s "Pilgrim’s Progress," the character "Christian" ends his journey to the Celestial city by coming to a river symbolizing death. He is told “You must pass through this River or else you cannot arrive at the gate of the City.” 

Said another source:

"The Sanzu-no-Kawa (lit. "River of Three Crossings", or the "Sanzu River") is a mythological river in Japanese Buddhist tradition similar to the Hindu concept of the Vaitarna and Greek concept of the Styx." (Citing Walter, Mariko Namba (2008). Death and the afterlife in Japanese Buddhism.

Citing another, the same source says:

"Before reaching the afterlife, the souls of the deceased must cross the river by one of three crossing points: a bridge, a ford, or a stretch of deep, snake-infested waters. The weight of one's offenses while alive determines which path an individual must take. It is believed that a toll of six mon must be paid before a soul can cross the river, a belief reflected in Japanese funerals when the necessary fee is placed in the casket with the dead."

This is what we see in primitive Egyptian beliefs and practices, where the manner of burying the dead affects the well being of the soul or spirit in the afterlife, when it exits the body. 

The source cited first (above) concerning Osiris also says:

"...a great deal of the requirements for the deceased to properly reach the underworld rested on the living. In order for the pharaoh to arrive at his final destination, his people had to construct a variety of boats to ensure his departure."

Of course, the bible does not teach that those who have died can be hurt or benefited by the acts of the living. But, more on this shortly when we mention how the manner of death also plays a determining role in how the dead fair in the afterlife.

That same source continued:

"However, not all who died were presented with the opportunity to travel to the underworld. Since the living were obligated to ensure that the deceased could travel to the afterlife, it was also in their control to eliminate one's chance in achieving eternity. Therefore, the living had an array of options that prevented a second life to an unworthy individual who had died. The most famous included decapitation, which when executed, "killed a person twice". As a result, the second death associated with decapitation was also assumed to have annihilated the chance at another life. As noted in Egyptian texts, this instance was incredibly feared, but happened most often to those who rebelled or disobeyed the king."

That was a citation from 

Picardo, Nicholas S. (2007). ""Semantic Homicide" and the So-called Reserve Heads: The Theme of Decapitation in Egyptian Funerary Religion and Some Implications for the Old Kingdom". Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt. 43: 221–252

Decapitation killed the victim twice? Killed them in the afterlife? Wow! What a powerful weapon this gave to pharaohs and ruling priests in Egypt! By threatening death by decapitation they could guarantee obedience from subjects. Tyrannical leaders often use such ideas for their own ends. They probably invented the idea. Think of all those who were killed by decapitation during the French Revolution! 

Said the same source further:

"The deceased's first task was to correctly address each of the forty-two Assessors of Maat by name, while reciting the sins they did not commit during their lifetime.[22] This process allowed the dead to demonstrate that they knew each of the judges’ names or Ren and established that they were pure, and free of sin. After confirming that they were sinless, the deceased was presented with the balance that was used to weigh their heart against the feather of Maat.[23] Anubis was the god often seen administering this test. If the deceased's heart balanced with the feather of Maat, Thoth would record the result and they would be presented to Osiris, who admitted them into the Sekhet-Aaru. However, if their heart was heavier than the feather, it was to be devoured by the Goddess Ammit, permanently destroying the soul of the deceased."[24]

22-Coogan, Michael D. (2013). A Reader of Ancient Near Eastern Texts: Sources for the Study of the Old Testament,"Negative Confessions". New York: Oxford University Press. pp. 149–150.

23-Budge, Wallis. Egyptian Religion: Egyptian Ideas of the Future Life. New York: Bell Publishing Company. pp. 161–162.

24-Coogan, Michael D. (2013). A Reader of Ancient Near Eastern Texts: Sources for the Study of the Old Testament,"The Weighting of the Heart". New York: Oxford University Press. pp. 150–154.

Note how Egyptian theology believed that eternal punishment was annihilation of the person, as do some Christian sects.

Death & Judgment

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ..." (Heb. 9: 27-28)

The bible is in agreement with certain primitive Egyptian and Greek beliefs about the afterlife. For instance, it and they teach that individual souls are judged after they die and when they enter the afterlife, and also teach that some souls will be judged worthy to paradise and some will be punished and excluded therefrom. But, though there are these basic agreements, there is nevertheless much disagreement on the judgment.

Wrote one (at journeytoEgypt.com - here) under the title "EGYPTIAN MYTHOLOGY AFTERLIFE AND JUDGMENT STORY" (emphasis mine):

"One of ancient Egypt main ideologies was the afterlife. They believed that the soul is immortal and the earth was only part on a larger journey. They believed that the soul consists of nine-part that was part of one earthly existence and at death, the Akh (Transformed-self), As recorded in the book of the dead, Would be met by the god of death Anubis and guided to their final resting place the hall of truth and wait their turn for judgment. And when the right time comes, Anubis would lead the souls to stand before the scribe of Thoth and Osiris in front of the golden scales where the Goddess of Harmony and balance Ma’at would be present, surrounded by the forty-two judges who would consult with the gods to determine every soul’s fate. The Egyptians chose to preserve their body using mummification if the soul chooses to return from death and visit earth."

I was a teenager when I got my copy of Egypt's "Book of the Dead." Though I never read the whole book, I did read enough of their hieroglyphics to get their general understanding about death and the afterlife. Like the Greeks, the Egyptians saw death as salvation for those who were prepared for it. For those not prepared, they would suffer a horrible annihilation. Their second death would be prolonged and excruciating. Also like Greek thought is the idea of a judgment after death by the gods, and one's good deeds could save from annihilation and grant entrance to eternal bliss. 

Again, the same article says further:

"The process of judgment begins with the heart of the soul, handed to Osiris who place it on a great golden scale balanced against the white feather of Ma’at (the feather of truth). If the soul’s heart was found to be lighter than the feather and the gods and the forty-two judges agreed then the soul was justified, the soul was allowed to move on to heavens called the Field of Reeds (The place of purification and eternal bliss) by boarding the ship of Ra through the dark underworld and If the heart was heavier than the feather, it would be thrown on the ground, then It will be eaten by the monster god Ammut who has the face of crocodile and the back of a rhinoceros Known as “the Gobbler” and the person’s soul would cease to exist."

Thus not every Egyptian was convinced of the certainty of an eternal afterlife of bliss. However, like Socrates, Egyptians believed that no good hearted man had any reason to fear punishment in the afterlife.

Another source of information on ancient Egyptian beliefs regarding the afterlife writes these things (see here - emphasis mine):

"The crimes of those who are condemned to hell consist of nothing more and nothing less than having acted against the divine world order established at the beginning of creation. Hence, they have excluded themselves from ma'at, while at the same time revealing themselves as agents of chaos. After death, they became forever reduced to a state of nonbeing, which was the chaotic state of the cosmos before creation. For them, there is no renewal and no regeneration of life, but only a second, definitive death. Rather than being the followers of Re, they are the "gang of Seth." Seth is the god who brought death into the world by murdering Osiris. They might also be referred to as the "children of Nut." Nut was the mother of Seth, and therefore of the first generation of mankind who rebelled against Re." 

Like the bible and Greek thought, Egyptians believed that some humans will be granted the privilege or right to live forever with the gods in bliss, but others will receive a punishment of annihilation. Though the bible does not teach annihilation, yet some professing bible believers do believe in it.

Said the same source:

"In every respect, the fate of the damned is the opposite of that of the blessed. When the righteous died and were mummified and buried with the proper rites, they could expect to start a new life in the company of Re and Osiris."

Notice one of the conditions for obtaining eternal life was a proper funeral in addition to having a good heart and having enough good works to counter all the evil works. This is the most common view among the ancient peoples. 

Said the same source:

"However, when the damned died, their flesh was torn away by demons and their mummy wrappings were removed so that their bodies were left to decompose. In the underworld that the blessed successfully navigate, their order of things is reversed, even to the extent that the damned have to walk upside down, eat their own excrement and drink their own urine. Their hands are tied behind their backs, often around stakes. Their heads and limbs are severed from their bodies and their flesh is cut off their bones. Their hearts are removed and their ba-souls are separated from their bodies, forever unable to return to them. They even loose their shadows, which were considered an important part of the ancient Egyptian being. They have no air and suffer from hunger and thirst, as they receive no funerary offerings. Worst of all, they are denied the reviving light of the sun god, who ignores them, even as they cry out loud and wail when he passes them in the underworld at night."

Notice again how the destiny of the condemned (bad people) is to kill them twice, so that they do not exist any more, and that they die a second death in a most violent and painful manner, a slow tortuous death. 

Also, notice the reference to disembodied spirits (souls) are called "shadows" that accompany the body. This makes me think of the term "rephaim" in the old testament. On this word Dr. Michael Heiser wrote (see pdf here)

REPHAIM (יםִ אָ פְ ר , repha'im). A Hebrew word often simply transliterated in modern English Bible versions (e.g., Gen 14:5 ESV, LEB). When the term is translated, it is rendered “giants” (1 Chr 20:4 ESV), “shades” (i.e., spirits of the dead; Isa 26:14 ESV), or simply “the dead” (Job 26:5 ESV). These translation choices point to the interpretive problem associated with the term: It is difficult to identify whether the Rephaim were humans (living or dead), quasi-divine figures, or disembodied spirits. Old Testament usage associates the term with all these possibilities, while external Semitic source texts in which the term is found (Ugaritic, Phoenician) do not describe the Rephaim as giants. Identification is further complicated by uncertainty regarding the term’s etymology and how it is translated in the Septuagint. (emphasis mine)

He also wrote:

"Since ancient Israel, along with other surrounding cultures, considered the dead inhabitants of the underworld to still be experiencing some sort of subterrestrial life, the rationale for this root as the basis for repha’im is that the term denotes “weakness or loss of energy” (Johnson The Vitality of the Individual, 89). This would aptly describe the cadaverous existence of life in the underworld; passages like Job 26:5 describe the dead (repha’im) beneath the surface of the cosmic waters under the earth, sinking listlessly in the realm of the dead." 

He also said:

"The common English translation “shades” captures the otherworldly, shadowy nature of the living dead residents of the underworld...Several biblical texts employ repha’im in parallel to other words for the shadowy dead."

He also wrote:

“Do you work wonders for the dead (methim)? Do the departed (repha’im) rise up to praise you? Selah Is your steadfast love declared in the grave (qever), or your faithfulness in Abaddon?” (ESV) Hebrew methim (“dead”) and repha’im also occur in connection with each other in Isa 26:14 (“They are dead [methim], they will not live; they are shades [repha’im], they will not arise”). Proverbs 2:18 admonishes the wise man to avoid the seduction of the adulteress by warning that “her house sinks down to death, and her paths to the departed” (repha’im; compare Prov 9:18). Job 26:5–6 places the Rephaim in the underworld: “The dead (repha’im) tremble under the waters and their inhabitants. Sheol is naked before God, And Abaddon has no covering” (ESV)."

Said the preceding source about Egyptian afterlife judgment:

"Hence, they are excluded from the eternal cosmic cycle of renewal and are instead assigned to the "outer darkness, the primeval chaotic world before creation, which is situated in the deepest recesses of the underworld, outside the created world. They are continuously punished by demons, who are the representatives of chaos. Indeed, the demons are often recruited from the ranks of the damned themselves, so that they torture and kill one another. They are subjected to knives and swords and to the fire of hell, often kindled by fire spitting snakes."

Said the same source:

"These horrible punishments were carried out in the "slaughtering place" or "place of destruction", and presided over by the fierce goddess Sekhmet, whose butchers hack their victims to pieces and burn them with inextinguishable fire, sometimes in deep pits or in cauldrons in which they are scorched, cooked and reduced to ashes. Demons feed on their entrails and drink their blood."

Again, there is both similarity and difference between Egyptian and Biblical afterlife beliefs respecting those who are destined for punishment in the afterlife as a result of the judgment. Notice these passages concerning the fate of all those who died unsaved.

"The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matt. 24: 50-51)

John the Baptist said that in the last judgment "he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." (Matt. 3: 12; Luke 3: 17) Christ spoke of lost souls who "go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched." (Mark 9: 43-48 several times)

Said the same source:

"Another location was the Lake of Fire, which was first mentioned in the Book of Two Ways in the Coffin Text (Spell 1054/1166) and illustrated in the Book of the Dead (Chapter 126). Like the "outer darkness," it is a place of regeneration for the sun god and his blessed followers, to whom it provides nourishment and cool water, but a place of destruction for the damned. Birds even fly away from it when they experience the burning, bloody water and small the stench of putrefaction which rises from it."

In the bible the "lake of fire" is synonymous with "gehenna" (also translated as "hell" as is "hades" in the KJV). The Lake of Fire is mentioned in the Apocalypse. (Revelation 19:20; 20:10, 14, 15; 21:8). The lake of fire is also called "the second death." 

Said the same source:

"By the end of the 18th Dynasty, a similar demon appears in chapter 125 of the Book of the Dead that depicts the judgment of the deceased before the divine tribunal. This is the better known judgment of the dead in which the heart of the deceased is weighed against the feather of Ma'at on a scale. In many cases, the Lake of Fire in Chapter 126 is also shown in this chapter. A late, Demontic text tells us that if the deceased's "evil deeds outnumber his good deeds he is delivered to the Swallower....; his soul as well as his body are destroyed and never will he breath again." In the vignette this monster is called the "Swallower of the Damned". The demon (Ammit) is represented with the head of a crocodile, the forelegs and body of a lion and the hindquarters of a hippopotamus. The demon might also sometimes be referred to as the "beast of destiny". She usually sits near the balance, ready to devour her victim." 

Again, the idea that men are permitted to attain immortality and eternal life by their good works exceeding their evil works is a common belief among the world's religions. It is not, however, the teaching of the bible. The bible teaches that only the perfect may be allowed entry into paradise and that this perfection is to be found only in Christ and that his perfect righteousness must be imputed (put to the credit or account of) to a person before that person can be judged as perfect. All those who think to be saved by their own works, by their own righteousness, will be lost. There are many in Hell today who trusted in their own works and goodness, men like Socrates and like the ancient Egyptians.