In this short follow up, I want to share some of my notes on this passage that were not included in the previous posting.
John MacArthur wrote:
"In each of those three passages, “crucified” is simply a vivid and dramatic way to say “killed,” or “executed.” In the first two passages Paul is teaching that at salvation his old, sinful, unregenerate self was executed and he was born a new man in Christ Jesus. In the third passage he is saying that the world has been executed and is now dead to him, so that it is no longer his master, holding him in bondage. He is therefore now free to serve the Lord."
MacArthur also wrote:
"Obviously, in none of those passages does Paul mean to imply that the crucifixion analogy carries the idea of total death, in which all influence ceases. Sin was still a reality in his life, and so was the temptation of the world. But there was a sense in which the power of the old self and of the world was broken. Those influences no longer dominated him."
I agree. But, more on this shortly. However, instead of saying "total death," I would have rather said that in conversion the sinner by faith nails his "old man," or "the flesh," including "the self" (or "ego"), "the world," etc., to the cross and this act begins the death process. Death by crucifixion was not instantaneous but slow. So it is with the death of the flesh with its affections and lusts.
MacArthur wrote:
"In the text of Galatians 5:24, Paul is saying that the flesh has been executed. But how could that be in light of what he has just said in this chapter about believers having a constant war with the ever-present flesh? In what sense is the flesh killed at conversion?
UBS Handbook writes that have crucified "is, of course, a figurative expression, suggesting a connection between this action of the believer and the death of Jesus Christ on the cross. The verb is in the aorist tense, suggesting either that the action took place in the past (at conversion...) or that the action resulted in a complete and decisive change...this action is presently reflected in the experience of every believer... (The United Bible Societies' New Testament Handbook Series)
Beet "Notice three crucifixions in this Epistle; of Paul, of the flesh and its desires, and of the world. Each of these implies the others. In each case crucified denotes death in virtue of Christ’s death on the cross and by union with the Crucified.
Constable - The Christian has crucified the flesh in the sense that when he or she trusted Christ God broke the domination of his or her sinful nature. While we still have a sinful human nature, it does not control us as it did before we trusted in Christ (cf. Ro 6:6–7). Paul said we, not God, have crucified it. We did this when we trusted in Jesus Christ as our Savior (cf. Gal 2:20). Therefore it is inconsistent for us to return to the flesh. “Passions” (Gr. pathemata, cf. Ro 7:5) are the outward expression of inner “desires” (Gr. epithumiai, cf. Gal 5:16). In another sense we need to continually crucify the flesh by choosing to yield to the Spirit (Gal 5:16, 18, 25; Ro 8:13; Col. 3:5). (Galatians)
Yes, what was first done in conversion and regeneration is done continuously. Did we repent when we were born again? Have we stopped repenting? Did we believe when we came to Christ? Have we stopped believing? Did we turn our backs upon our egos, upon the world, and upon trusting in our own works for salvation, when the Lord taught us by his word and Spirit? Did we stop or did we continue to turn our backs?
Spurgeon in the Christian Illustrator wrote the following on Crucifixion of the flesh.
Crucifixion of the flesh: — Men who believe in Jesus become purer, holier, better. They are saved from living as they used to live — saved from licentiousness, dishonesty, drunkenness, selfishness, and any other sin they may have lived in. They are different men. There is a change in their heart and soul, conduct and conversation.
I. THE RECEPTION OF JESUS CHRIST BY FAITH IS, IN ITSELF, AN AVOWAL THAT WE HAVE CRUCIFIED THE FLESH, WITH THE AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS.
Christ died in our room and stead. By faith we regard ourselves as dead with Him.
II. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE RECEPTION OF CHRIST IS ATTENDED WITH THE CRUCIFIXION OF SIN.
Every truly converted man is a proof of this.
III. THE RECEPTION OF JESUS CHRIST INTO THE HEART BY SIMPLE FAITH IS CALCULATED TO CRUCIFY THE FLESH.
1. The believer has seen the evil of sin. It is a deicide — a killing of God.
2. He has seen in the death of Christ an amazing instance of the great grace of God.
3. He has had a view of the justice of God.
4. He has seen the amazing love of Jesus. How, then, can he go on grieving and offending Him?
IV. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WITH THE GOSPEL, AND WHERE HE IS HOLINESS MUST BE PROMOTED.
Wherever Jesus Christ is preached, there is present One sublime in rank and high in degree — the ever-blessed Spirit of God. He takes of the things of Christ, and shows them unto men. His power changes the current of men’s desires, making them crucify the flesh and its affections, and love things holy, just, and true."
John Stott, the well known theologian and bible commentator, wrote (emphasis mine):
"We must crucify the flesh...This verse is frequently misunderstood. Please notice that the ‘crucifixion’ of the flesh described here is something that is done not to us but by us. It is we ourselves who are said to ‘have crucified the flesh’."
This is what was emphasized in my previous posting on this subject. Though the crucifixion is done by the sinner in his conversion, it is nevertheless certain that all those who belong to Christ are by the grace and power of God made to do so.
Stott continued:
"Perhaps I can best expose the popular misconception by saying that Galatians 5:24 does not teach the same truth as Galatians 2:20 or Romans 6:6. In those verses we are told that by faith-union with Christ we have been crucified with Him. But here it is we who have taken action. We ‘have crucified’ our old nature. It is not now a ‘dying’ which we have experienced through union with Christ; it is rather a deliberate ‘putting to death’.
What does it mean? Paul borrows the image of crucifixion, of course, from Christ Himself who said:
If any man would come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me (Mk. 8:34)
To ‘take up the cross’ was our Lord’s vivid figure of speech for self-denial. Every follower of Christ is to behave like a condemned criminal and carry his cross to the place of execution. Now Paul takes the metaphor to its logical conclusion. We must not only take up our cross and walk with it, but actually see that the execution takes place. We are actually to take the flesh, our willful and wayward self, and (metaphorically speaking) nail it to the cross. This is Paul’s graphic description of repentance, of turning our back on the old life of selfishness and sin, repudiating it finally and utterly..."
Stott continued:
"The Greek verb is in the aorist tense, indicating that this is something we did decisively at the moment of conversion. When we came to Jesus Christ, we repented. We ‘crucified’ everything we knew to be wrong. We took our old self-centered nature, with all its sinful passions and desires, and nailed it to the cross. And this repentance of ours was decisive, as decisive as a crucifixion. So, Paul says, if we crucified the flesh, we must leave it there to die. We must renew every day this attitude towards sin of ruthless and uncompromising rejection. In the language of Jesus, as Luke records it, every Christian must take up his cross daily (Luke 9:23)." (Stott, J. R. W. The Message of Galatians: Only one way. Leicester, England; Downer's Grove, Ill., U.S.A.: Inter-Varsity Press)
That is clearly "spot on."
Stott continued:
"J. Brown describes the continual putting to death of the flesh with all its sinful passions and desires in this way:
“Crucifixion…produced death not suddenly but gradually...True Christians do not succeed in completely destroying it (that is the flesh) while here below; but they have fixed it to the cross and they are determined to keep it there till it expires.”
That is well stated! The action of conversion, of repentance, is the action of nailing the flesh, the world, etc., to the cross! And, we are determined to keep it there and watch it die!
James Montgomery Boice explains that in Galatians 5:24 Paul...
"reminds his readers that when they came to Christ, they repented fully of the works of the flesh and indeed turned their backs on them forever. This act they must sustain. In speaking of this radical repentance, Paul uses the vivid image of crucifixion. This is an image he has used in other places; it was a favorite with him. But here he uses it in a slightly different way from the way he used it in Romans 6:6 or Galatians 2:20, for example. In these other instances, the verb is in the passive voice ("was crucified," "have been crucified"), and the reference is to what has been done for the believer as a result of Christ's death. But in this passage the verb is in the active voice ("have crucified") and points rather to what the believer has himself done and must continue to regard as being done. The proper term to describe this act is repentance. Thus the believer in Christ has already repented of his former way of life to the degree of actually having executed the old nature. This does not mean that the battle is thereby over forever. As in an actual crucifixion, life lingers even though the criminal has been nailed to the cross. Nevertheless, the believer is to regard the decisive act as having been done. He is not to seek to remove from the cross what has once been nailed there." (Gaebelein, F, Editor: Expositor's Bible Commentary 6-Volume New Testament. Zondervan Publishing)
Again, well said!
Wrote John Gill in his commentary:
"And in consequence of this crucifixion of the body of sin, with Christ upon the cross, when he finished and made an end of it, sin, with its passions and lusts, is crucified by the Spirit of God in regeneration and sanctification; so that it loses its governing power, and has not the dominion it had before: not but that the flesh, or corrupt nature, with its evil affections, and carnal lusts, are still in being, and are alive; as a person fastened to a cross may be alive, though he cannot act and move as before, being under restraints, so the old man, though crucified, and under the restraints of mighty grace, and cannot reign and govern as before, yet is alive, and acts, and operates, and oftentimes has great sway and influence; but whereas he is deprived of his reigning power, he is said to be crucified: and though this act is ascribed to them that are Christ's, yet not as done by them in their own strength, who are not able to grapple with one corruption, but as under the influence of the grace of Christ, and through the power of his Spirit; see (Romans 8:13)."
Again, all these great men have truly explained how the experience of crucifixion is initially experienced in evangelical repentance and such a crucifixion guarantees that the thing crucified will in fact die. It is inevitable. Only fake believers would think of taking self and the flesh from off the cross and sparing their final death.
Have you crucified the flesh, sin, and the world? Are you determined to see them destroyed?
2 comments:
This is a great analogy and saying, I am keeping it for myself..."We must not only take up our cross and walk with it, but actually see that the execution takes place."
Your first post on this topic adressed the fact that modern primitive baptists do not believe that those who have eternal life will neccessarily be converted. I also at one time believed this. What foolishness and what a destructive message to followers of Christ! Damnable conclusions can be directly infered from this teaching..."let us eat and drink for tommorow we die and will be saved".
Here is another scripture you cited blasting this idea and exhorting us to keep the old man bleeding on the cross until he is lifeless...Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Oh how thankful we are to have been delivered from the destructive heresies of today's Hardshells! Oh that more would come to see how their souls are in danger for promoting such God dishonoring teachings! My growth in the knowledge of the truth began to soar once the Lord removed my blinders! Thank you Lord!
I pity my blind Hardshell brothers! I weep for them! God help them!
Thank you as always for your comment brother Henry!
Are we not the real "old" or "primitive" Baptists?
Stephen
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