Wednesday, July 14, 2021
God's Elect or World's Elite? XXIX
Monday, July 12, 2021
Fall Of Satan & Angels
It is my intention in the future to write upon this subject. Here are the questions that should be addressed in any exhaustive study of the subject. Each could be at least one chapter in a book on the subject, some of the questions requiring lengthy treatment.
1. Is Satan for real?
2. Is Satan a fallen angel?
3. When did he fall?
4. Did other angels fall with him?
5. Did the fall of the angels as mentioned by Jude and Peter occur when Satan fell?
6. If they fell at a different time than Satan, then when?
7. What was the sin of Satan?
8. What was the sin of the angels?
9. Was Satan cast down to Hell?
10. Were the fallen angels cast down to Hell?
11. If in Hell, then how do Satan and the fallen angels influence human beings?
12. Are demons and fallen angels the same beings?
13. Can angels still sin and fall from Heaven?
14. What is to be learned by the fall of Satan and angels?
Sunday, July 11, 2021
Throgmorton on Apostasy
His biography can be read here.
He was a leading Southern Baptist pastor in Illinois. He pastored throughout the state and served as editor of The Baptist Banner, The Baptist News, and later The Illinois Baptist newspaper.
He held about fifty debates, some with Primitive Baptists such as S.F. Cayce, Lemuel Potter, and John R. Daily.
Wrote Throgmorton:
"Yes, but these must have had faith, else they could not have departed from it, and if they had faith they were real children of God."
"That would be true if they had saving faith. But faith often means the system of faith or doctrine. In fact, this is what "the faith" generally means. They departed from the doctrine. You know one may be very orthodox in doctrine and know nothing about the faith that saves. Robert G. Ingersoll was brought up to believe the Bible, but he departed from that teaching. He forsook the faith in which he was reared. This does not mean that he was ever a true Christian." (pg. 182)
Yes, and "the devils believe and tremble." Some have faith but not saving faith, such as Muslims, Hindus, and other false religious faiths. There is also shallow superficial faith, the kind we see in the shallow ground hearer in the parable of the seed and soils. Faith that is begotten of God is never overcome, but overcomes. It is only hypocritical faith that does not overcome.
Wrote Throgmorton:
"What about the second chapter of Second Peter?"
"In this place many think they find the doctrine of ultimate apostasy, or of its possibility, beyond a doubt. But I think not. The culmination of Peter's argument is in the last verse wherein he sums up the character of the apostates and the facts concerning them; "But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his vomit again: and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." When a dog casts forth his vomit, because he is sick, that does not change his dog nature, nor does it give him a new nature. So when a sinner gets so sick of some of his evil habits that he quits them, this does not necessarily mean that his nature has been changed, or that he has been made a partaker of the divine nature. When a filthy sow is taken and washed from the filth she so much delights in, it does not change her nature in the least, nor does it give her a new nature. She is the same sow that she was before. So when a man by reformation is made outwardly clean, it does not necessarily follow that his old nature has been changed or that he has been made a partaker of the new nature. This was just the case with these people of whom Peter speaks. In fact, he as much as tells us so. He says, "It is happened unto them according to the true proverb." What is the true proverb? "The dog is turned to his OWN vomit again," and, "the sow that was washed to HER wallowing in the mire." It was just as natural for these people to do as they did, as it was for these animals to do as they did. Is this descriptive of one who has been born again? Surely not. Nowhere are God's children spoken of either as dogs or as hogs."
Again, this is so well expressed. I have had to deal with this passage more than once in debate. There are many believers who are like the Pharisees who were "clean on the outside" (at least for awhile) but were inwardly filthy. They were like the unbelieving Jews who were only Jews outwardly but not so inwardly, being Christians outwardly in word and profession but not so internally.
Wrote Throgmorton:
"My first reason for believing in the doctrine of "once in grace always in grace" is the nature of the new birth. The new birth is not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. See John 1: 13. Being made a child of God is not a mere form. It is not a being baptized. It is not simply turning over a new leaf and doing better. It is a being born from above. It is a new creation. Jesus said, "Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." When one is thus born again he is as truly God's child as he was before the child of his earthly father. As he was before a partaker of human nature, he is now a partaker of the divine nature. See 2 Peter 1:4. And this divine nature stays with him. He can no more be separated from it than he can be separated from his human nature. The fact that he is the son of his earthly father cannot be undone. No more can the fact that he is the son of his Heavenly Father be undone. Once a child of God always a child of God. In 1 John 3 :9 we have this : "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin : for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." Every Christian man is two men. He is the son of Adam and as such has the old Adam nature. He is a son of God. And as such has the "Divine nature." As Adam's son, having Adam's nature, he sins every day. As the son of God, being made a partaker of the Divine nature, he can no more sin than Christ can sin. For this reason his final apostasy is utterly impossible."
Yes, the nature of the new birth! If that was understood, then no one would deny eternal security for the true believer. The 1689 London Baptist Confession also affirmed that the nature of the new birth prevents apostasy and insures perseverance.
Wrote Throgmorton:
"The surest sign that one is a Christian is that he has the spirit of Christ, and that spirit seeks always to know and to do the Lord's will. If you are refraining from sin simply because you are afraid of hell, the best thing for you to do is to repent and believe the gospel. You are not yet a Christian, and you know nothing about either saving grace or preserving grace."
Hatred of sin and love for Christ and the gospel produces "patient endurance in well doing."
God's Elect or World's Elite? XXVIII
We have already introduced the above verse in a previous chapter when we discussed "boldness" or "plainness" in speech. Christian speaking should generally be plain, simple, frank, and straightforward, and the language of common men. There is little "flowery language" in preaching the word of God, or "fancy talk." On the above words of the apostle John Gill wrote (commentary):
"we use great plainness of speech; plain and intelligible words, not ambiguous ones: or "boldness"; we are not afraid of men nor devils; we are not terrified by menaces, stripes, imprisonment, and death itself: or "freedom of speech"; we speak out all our mind, which is the mind of Christ; we declare the whole counsel of God, hide and conceal nothing that may be profitable to the churches; we are not to be awed by the terror, or drawn by the flatteries of men to cover the truth; we speak it out plainly, clearly, with all evidence and perspicuity."
"Freedom of speech," what does that mean? Many preachers have often begun their discourses by asking their hearers to pray that the Lord would give them "liberty" to preach effectively and inspirationally. They desire the "blessing" of liberty to preach to edification. Of course, when we speak of "freedom of speech" in this sense we exclude what that means politically, where it means to have license to say what one pleases (with exceptions) without criminal liability. What we mean is that a speaker has freedom of thought in speaking, has a fresh memory where recall is easy, and is free from hindrances and distractions, and where there is a kind of "unction" or exuberance felt and manifested. It has to do with easiness of expression, or fluency. It also includes the idea of speaking with fervor, with deep and intense feeling. It also includes, as Gill says, speaking clearly and distinctly and in "intelligible words" and avoiding ambiguity.
"Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." (II Cor. 3: 17) This would of course include freedom of speech. Further, in looking through the four Gospels and the Book of Acts and seeing the many times where men filled with the Spirit spoke we see this liberty in speaking exemplified. When filled with the Spirit and speaking and teaching the word of God there is no hesitancy in speaking, no stammering, no searching for words, for speech then just flowed smoothly like a stream of water. Let us notice Paul's words before his trial before Festus the ruler.
"But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak (apophthengomai) forth the words (rhema) of truth and soberness." (Acts 26: 25)
The Greek word apophthengomai means "to speak out, speak forth, pronounce," it not being "a word of everyday speech but one belonging to dignified and elevated discourse." It also means to "enunciate plainly." It was sober conversation, dealing with the most important subjects concerning the world and human beings. As the subject matter is grave, so must be the discourse. In fact, Christians are exhorted to avoid talking about unimportant matters in the place of speaking of the gospel.
"But avoid foolish questions," said Paul, along with verbal "contentions and strivings about the law," saying that "they are unprofitable and vain." (Titus 3: 9) They are to avoid them in their discoursing on the things of God. Such speech is no good, useless, not edifying. Paul also warned against "foolish talking" (morologia, a word we looked at previously), and against "jesting" in discourse, saying such was "not convenient," not right or proper. (Eph. 5: 4)
People generally want simple honest plain talk although they are vulnerable to "smooth talkers," as we well know from advertisers and politicians. They are generally interested in the facts, not in embellishment of them. Sadly, this is the kind of talk on many news and opinion shows in the media today.
As we have previously noted, Isaiah wrote:
Such was the speaking of the apostles and the church's first evangelists and teachers, even its lay members. They by the Spirit of God spoke in words that were "fluent and clear." In fact, we can put that word "fluent" into those paragraphs above where we spoke of freedom in speech, for "fluent" means "able to express oneself easily and articulately." The word comes from the Latin and means "to flow like a stream" and this simile is what we just previously referred to in those chapters about liberty in preaching. People who talk about a given discourse will sometimes mention "the flow of the speech" or "the flow of the argument."
Notice too how those who the prophet said would come to "know and understand" and to speak clearly and fluently are they who were previously people who had a "fearful heart" about speaking publicly, yea, even people who "stammered" in their speech. This was fulfilled in the Book of Acts when the apostles and first Christians spoke in such language, yea, even miraculously in other languages. But on that we will enlarge upon in a future chapter.
Paul advised that Christian speak should be -
"Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you." (I Titus 2: 8)
By "sound speech" is meant healthy talk, not "sick speech." It should reflect life and light, should invigorate and enliven, enrich, and be robust. It should rejuvenate, motivate, vivify, energize, and refresh listeners. Paul says that "sound speech" is what "cannot be condemned," that is, cannot be legitimately refuted. Notice how Paul describes speech in a debate format. There is the speaker with "sound speech," the one with the truth of the proposition in debate, on one side, and then there is the opponent on the other side, "he that is of the contrary side." Notice how Paul describes the victory of truth verbally defended by the Christian debater. He says that the opponent 1) "cannot condemn" the speaker nor his reasoning and proof (his words), and 2) becomes "ashamed" of his opposition to the sound speech, and 3) is silenced so that he has "no evil thing to say of you."
Along this same line of thought Paul also wrore:
This grace is most needed when the believer faces a hostile opponent to what he says as one who disseminates truth. He needs God's grace and blessing to have courage and boldness at such times in order to defend the teachings of scripture. Notice these words from Jeremiah the prophet about his being sent to speak in the name of the Lord.
Friday, July 9, 2021
God's Elect or World's Elite? XXVII
Thursday, July 8, 2021
Spurgeon's Advice On Sermons
I agree with Spurgeon. How about you? I pray more of my Hardshell preacher brethren will heed this advice from the great Baptist preacher.
Need Assurance? Test Yourself
The context has Paul defending himself against those who question his apostolic authority and he essentially says, in a piece of irony, perhaps even sarcasm, "You seek a test of my power. Apply a test to yourselves."
Vincent's Word Studies says:
"Examine yourselves (ἑαυτοὺς πειράζετε). Yourselves is emphatic. Instead of putting Christ to the test, test yourselves. Rev., try, is better than examine. Examination does not necessarily imply a practical test. It may be merely from curiosity. Trial implies a definite intent to ascertain their spiritual condition.
Assuming that you thus prove yourselves, does not this test show you that Christ is in you as the result of your faith in him?"
"Reprobates (ἀδόκιμοι); An unfortunate translation. A reprobate is one abandoned to perdition. The word is kindred to the verb prove (δοκιμάζετε), and means disapproved on trial."
The Amplified Bible reads:
Phillips Translation reads:
Wuest translates as:
Christians need to pay attention to this statement of the apostle. Not all who profess to be in union with Christ, and therefore saved, are really attached to him. How can we know if we are?
If we do not hate sin, then we fail the test of being truly born again and a "partaker of the divine nature." (II Peter 1: 3-4) If we do not love righteousness and holiness, then we fail the test. If we do not regularly pray and study the word of God, then we fail the test. If we do not walk humbly with God, then we fail the test.
We cannot take our salvation for granted. "Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." (I Cor. 10: 12) But, let us not stand in doubt either. You can pass the test. It begins with simple faith and a turning in repentance to the Lord.
"Life Precedes Action" & Hardshell Logic
From chapter nine "Hardshell Logic On Regeneration" (here) I wrote this:
Life precedes actionHere is what Brother Gowens wrote:
"Birth is the necessary prerequisite of belief, in the same sense that life must come before activity."
Here Brother Gowens is upholding the "Bio-Genesis" argument. Sinners must be regenerated first, apart from means, before they can believe, repent, turn to Christ, etc. Why? Because there are Bible verses that say that? No, but because Hardshells are using human "logic" and applying it to the mysteries of God.
But, Hardshell views on regeneration say that life exists where there is absolutely no activity at all! That just won't wash either. Just as "faith without works (actions) is dead," so too "life without activity is dead." Remember that Sarrels said that regeneration "produces no internal sensations", or no activity! We cannot say, dogmatically, which came first, faith or life, faith or repentance, for the scriptures put them in reverse order. This, combined with the overall commentary of the apostles and New Testament writers, tells us that they occur simultaneously, or as I said earlier, you cannot have one without the other. You cannot have life without faith, nor can you have faith without life. So too we say that one cannot have faith without repentance nor repentance without faith.
Notice these words of Jesus to some who were clearly "dead in tresspassess and sins," and needed life.
"And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life." (John 5:40)
If the Hardshell theory were true, Christ could not speak thusly but would have to say, "And you will not have life that you may come unto me." Coming to Christ precedes the obtaining of life. "Coming" is a verb, and denotes action. So too do we read in Isaiah 45:22: "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." It is similar to Numbers 21:8.
"And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live."
Notice that salvation, the "shall live," is the result of the action of "looking." In the teaching of Christ, this "looking" corresponds to our believing in Christ and seeing him upon the cross, the anti-type of the pole set up by Moses in the wilderness. In the preaching of the gospel people see Christ "set forth" and "crucified." (Gal. 3:1) They see him, his sufferings and death, and they look in faith to that atonement, trusting in it, and are thereby changed and born of the Spirit. The Spirit works through the word in bringing men to Christ. I will have more to say later, in a separate chapter, on "Coming To Christ," wherein I examine Hardshell teaching about what it means to "come to Christ."
Now let me add a few thoughts to the above (the whole chapter is worth reading).
Ezekiel and the giving of life to the dry dead bones. Was there action before life? Yes.
Wrote the apostle John:
"but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name." (John 20: 31)
Does life come from believing or does believing come from life? Can you have one without the other? Is believing "action" and does it occur before life? Likewise, as noted above, John wrote:
"And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life." (John 5: 40)
Is coming an action? Does that action precede or follow obtaining life?
What think ye?



