Sunday, July 26, 2020

What Truth Is Learned In Rebirth?

"Ivey admits that all who are "drawn" by the Father, are likewise "taught" by the Father, and "come to Christ." This admission destroys the very doctrine he tries to uphold! It destroys hardshellism! If being "taught" by the Father is the way the Father "draws," then this, rather than denying means, supports them! How can a man be "taught" without knowledge and truth? Let Ivey tell us what truth is taught by the Father as part of his "drawing"! If the "drawing" involves "teaching," or the acquisition of knowledge, then the effect of it is to learn! But, Hardshells say that nothing is "taught" and "learned" in regeneration, affirming that the experience is non-cognitive and on the sub-conscious level. Sinner's learn nothing in regeneration, remaining as ignorant as they were before! Their "regeneration" has no enlightenment, no revelation of truth, no deliverance from the darkness of ignorance. Ivey speaks of "direct divine instruction," a kind that includes no gospel revelation and knowledge, as what occurs in the "drawing" of the Father, but we would simply ask him - "what truth is taught in regeneration?"" 
(from "Reviewing Ivey's Work VII" - here)

Any Hardshell want to answer the question - "what truth is taught by the Father as part of his "drawing"?

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