I totally disagree with these men who insist that baptism, to be legitimate, must be performed by certain qualified administrators. I also disagree with Nichols who affirms that those who believe that any disciple may baptize (the signers of the 1644 London Baptist Confession for instance) have a "low ecclesiology."
I dealt at length with this question in my series "Hardshells and Alien Baptism"(June 2017 Archives). I also dealt with it to some lessor degree in my series on "Landmarkism."
In the comment section for the youtube video we have these interesting comments, most of which I would heartily agree with.
Listener Comments
"Can we get a Bible verse or something. Otherwise everything that was stated is moot."
"So if a family of husband and wife are the only Christians in a predominantly Hindu or Islamic region, then they can never take communion together or be baptized legitimately?"
"Sorry Ligonier, you've helped me so much, but not with you on this one."
"Wow- and I thought the Roman Catholics were heavy on man-made traditions! Come on guys---you can do better!"
"So only elders can baptize? Can someone post scripture for this please?"
"Any born again believer can baptize."
"The answer "only elders can do the baptism" seems not consistent with the Bible."
"I must have missed it, but did they answer the question and did we learn anything? Just a talk fest going nowhere."
"Too bad no one answered the question. A group of men sat around using doctrinal buzzwords criticizing others but not teaching. Very poor job."
"I'm a great fan of Ligonier, but I don't see anywhere with this view can be substantiated by the Bible. If he gave the command to the disciples, then everyone can do these things, if he gave it to the apostles, then nobody can, unless there is Apostolic succession."
"Yep, as others are pointing out, this position is simply anti-Biblical. There is not a word in Scripture commanding that only elders baptize believers. Is it preferable, when possible? Perhaps. Commanded? Absolutely not. Get off your high horses guys."
"The priesthood of all believers and the freedom of christ extends to me the right to baptize my children but to administer the sacraments as well. Don't fence the table."
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The problem with Ligonier, is that they are "Reformed"....which means they consider themselves to be the continuation of the Church Catholic. Reformed theology is a form of Landmarkism, as they believe they are the inheritors of the true Catholic faith, and thus the Catholic Church is the true church established by Christ. They accept all of the Ecumenical creeds of the Catholic church. Thats why they have a "high" ecclesiology. However, even the Roman Catholic Church believes ANYONE can baptize! The rite of baptism in the Roman Church says "The Rite of Baptism says, "All lay persons, since they belong to the priestly people, and especially parents and, by reason of their work, catechists, obstetricians, ... nurses of the sick, as well as physicians and surgeons, should know the proper method of baptizing in cases of necessity" (Rite of Baptism, 17). Also, the Roman Catholic Catechism says "In case of necessity, anyone, even a non-baptized person, with the required intention, can baptize, by using the Trinitarian baptismal formula. The intention required is to will to do what the Church does when she baptizes. The Church finds the reason for this possibility in the universal saving will of God and the necessity of Baptism for salvation. (CCC 1256)SOOOO in this instance, the Reformed churches are the ones who are adding to Scripture, more so than the Catholic Church!
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