Sunday, April 19, 2026

Elder Cayce on Asking for the Spirit

Recently I wrote on Luke 9:13 where Jesus said (See here):

"If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!” (Luke 11: 13 nkjv)

I stated that this was true in regard to lost sinners asking that God send them his Spirit to save them. After that, as I was reading from the editorial writings of Hardshell leader Elder C.H. Cayce, I saw where Cayce was asked about this text for the July 30, 1912 issue of his paper "The Primitive Baptist" and he answered it with these words:

"Brother C. C. Gooch, of Selmer, Tenn., requests our views of (Luke 11:13), which reads, “If ye, then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him?'' The Saviour was talking to His disciples. He was not talking to unregenerate sinners, trying to get them to ask for the Holy Spirit. As He was talking to His disciples, those who were already children of God, He was, therefore, talking to people who were already in possession of the Holy Spirit in the sense of regeneration. God's children may, therefore, approach the throne of grace and ask the Father for the manifest presence of the Holy Spirit to lead, guide, direct and influence them in the right way, and to sustain them in sorrows and distresses."

It is true that Christ was talking to his disciples but Cayce fails to mention the fact that not all who were disciples of Christ were regenerate. Cayce believed that Judas never was a child of God nor a true disciple and yet he is included in the group of disciples that Jesus addresses. There were those who followed and sought for Jesus in order to be fed by the food Christ miraculously provided and so Jesus said to them:

“Most assuredly, I say to you, you seek Me, not because you saw the signs, but because you ate of the loaves and were filled. Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.” (John 6: 26-27 nkjv)

Why can't such lost sinners, fake disciples, be exhorted to ask for, seek for, and labor for food that endures forever but not for the Holy Spirit? In the same discourse this is recorded about these illegitimate followers: "From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more." (vs. 66) 

Also, Jesus says of the people he is speaking to that they are "evil." How could you exclude the unregenerate wicked? 

In the same discourse Jesus says to all:

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened." (Matt. 7: 7-8 nkjv)

According to Cayce, one must first be in possession of the Spirit in order to ask for the Spirit. How is that for logic? Especially from a man who prided himself on being logical? He also believed that one must also be saved before he can ask to be saved! If pressed, however, he would say that no one is saved by asking to be saved. He would say God is not found by seeking, asking, and knocking. Asking for the Spirit is no different than asking for the presence of the Father and Son. To the wicked God says: "Seek the Lord while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near." (Isa. 55: 6 nkjv)

To "call upon the name of the Lord" for salvation is the same as asking the Lord to save.

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